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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I did not find anything here about your father but
thought it was an interesting website.</FONT></DIV>
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Patrick</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 06, 2009 8:59
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [or-roots] MM Melvin and the
O & C RR</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My father Glenn Patrick lost his left arm on
January 1,1916 while working as a</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>fireman as a result of a railroad wreck on the O
& C railroad near Winchester, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Oregon.The collision was between trains of the
Southern Pacific R R.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have a picture of a O&C craine trying to
put Dads engine back on line .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyone know any more about this.?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:18
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [or-roots] MM Melvin and
the O & C RR</DIV>
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<P><BR>The Spokane, Portland, And Seattle Railroad Historical Society I
belive had some information on the O & C, regretably there part of the
Clark County Historical Society museum was closed, because of remodeling and
does not have the funds to reopen, and all their records Etc. are in
storage.</P>
<P>The SP&S Historical Society does have a couple of books out, do not
rememeber off hand if there was anything in them for the O&C.</P>
<P>The Oregon Historical Society I know has some things on the O&C, you
may also be able to get information on a particular individual that worked
on the railroad from the Railroad Retirement Board which is located in
Chicago.</P>
<P>Glen Jones, Portland 38year, veteran of the BNSF RR and its
forerunners. <BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From:
"Kith-n-Kin" <Kith-n-Kin@cox.net><BR>To: "or-roots mail list"
<or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us><BR>Sent: Wednesday, February 25,
2009 5:24:14 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific<BR>Subject: Re: [or-roots] MM
Melvin and the O & C RR<BR><BR>Les<BR><BR>Interesting. Austin and Dill
*the Southern Pacific in Oregon* have:<BR><BR>In 1851 a railroad was
proposed by Mr. H. M. Knighton to run from St. Helens<BR>on the Columbia
River, across Cornelieus Pass, to Lafayette which was then a<BR>principal
city in the Willamette Valley. Nothing developed of this
proposal,<BR>although, in 1906, James Hill's Oregon Electric Railway would
use a similar<BR>route. . . <BR><BR>Legislative session 1853-54:<BR><BR>1.
The Willamette Valley Railroad Company, which proposed a line
from<BR>Portland to the head of the Willamette Valley.<BR>2. The Oregon and
California Railroad Company, which proposed a line from<BR>Eugene City to
"some point in the Willamette Valley below Oregon City"<BR>3. The Cincinnati
Railroad Company, which planned to build from the town of<BR>Cincinnati in
Polk County to the "Polk County Coal Mines."<BR>4. The Clackamas Railroad
Company, proposing a line around the Willamette<BR>River Falls at Oregon
City. <BR><BR><BR>"On November 21, 1866, Gaston incorporated the Oregon
Central Railroad<BR>Company with offices in Portland, Oregon. The
Legislature in 1866 designated<BR>the Oregon Central Railroad as the company
to construct theline in oregon,<BR>thereby giving Gaston's line the needed
land grant. . . ." This was<BR>essentially by "reincorporating" the
"California and Columbia River" group.<BR>Confused yet?<BR><BR>Then, along
comes S. G. Elliott, (California) who, acting on behalf of the<BR>interests
that controlled the "Oregon and California Railroad" offered to<BR>"buyout"
the Oregon Central Railroad. Gaston was opposed, and won, more or<BR>less.
Some of the incorporators split and joined Elliott. Elliott then<BR>started
his own company, calling it the Oregon Central Rail Road Company.<BR>(note
the "rail" "road" instead of "railroad")<BR><BR>So, they fought, and
eventually, Gaston's westside (the original) company<BR>became the Southern
Pacific Railroad lines in Oregon. <BR><BR>Ben Holladay a
transportation "magnate" took over the eastside lines,<BR>eventually gaining
control (1870s) and sold $10.5 mil in bonds to complete<BR>the "Oregon and
California" Railroad. <BR><BR>So, you want to know whether Melvin stuck with
Gaston, or swung over to<BR>Elliott and Holladay. Unfortunately, Melvin
isn't mentioned, so you have<BR>some more work cut out for you.<BR><BR>This
is a fascinating story. Sometime hard to follow, but fun
none-the-less.<BR><BR>Whew!<BR><BR>Pat <BR>Tucson,
AZ<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us<BR>[mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us]
On Behalf Of Leslie<BR>Chapman<BR>Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:34
PM<BR>To: Oregon List<BR>Subject: [or-roots] MM Melvin and the O & C
RR<BR><BR>At last I have found hard evidence linking my great grandfather
and the O &<BR>C Railroad;<BR><BR>Oregon Historical Quarterly Vol
VII<BR><BR>ariticle on; The Genesis of the Oregon Railway System by Joseph
Gaston which<BR>starts on page 105. On page 111-112; The Oregon Lesgislature
met in<BR>September, 1866, six weeks after Congress granted the lands in aid
of the<BR>road. It was decided to abandon the orininal organization which
had so far<BR>promoted the enterprise, and accordingly the writer of this
paper prepared<BR>articles for the incorporation of "The Oregon Central
Railroad Comapny,"<BR>[why have I always thought it was 'Oregon and
Califonria"?]the office and<BR>headquarters of which should be at Portland,
Oregon. These articles were<BR>signed by J.S. Smith [etc, etc] M. M. Melvin,
[etc etc].<BR><BR>Gaston goes on to apparently defend the actions of the
company and claim<BR>credit for himself as well as give his authority to
write the history as he<BR>being at the time [1902] the only surviving
founder. The article is followed<BR>by another one on the subject of the
Oregon Central by S. A. Clarke which<BR>begs to differ with Gaston on some
pertinent facts.<BR><BR>I haven't read it in it's entirety, but it looks to
be very interesting. The<BR>two article together run to page 144 and I
notice in one othe evidentiary<BR>documents grampa's name is spelled
Melvine??<BR><BR>Les C<BR><BR>PS there are several Oregon Quarterly editions
available on google books
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