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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Looking for a connection from Mckinney's and
Bradley'?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I live on McKinney mountain. Named for the McKinneys
who had the original land grant. Marion Co. Oregon.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=birdman_326@msn.com href="mailto:birdman_326@msn.com">JOHN LAURA
MCKINNEY</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us
href="mailto:or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 18, 2009 12:50
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [or-roots] or-roots Digest,
Vol 29, Issue 3</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi, I have been working on my husband's lines out of IN.
Maybe others are doing same. Take care to have a great
day!!!!! Laura<BR><BR>From: <A
href="mailto:or-roots-request@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">or-roots-request@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</A><BR>Subject:
or-roots Digest, Vol 29, Issue 3<BR>To: <A
href="mailto:or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</A><BR>Date:
Fri, 18 Sep 2009 08:22:14 -0700<BR><BR><PRE>Send or-roots mailing list submissions to<BR> or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us<BR> <BR>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<BR> <A href="http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots">http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots</A><BR>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<BR> or-roots-request@listsmart.osl.state.or.us<BR> <BR>You can reach the person managing the list at<BR> or-roots-owner@listsmart.osl.state.or.us<BR> <BR>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<BR>than "Re: Contents of or-roots digest..."<BR></PRE><BR><BR>--Forwarded
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<BR><BR><BR>Does anybody know good books, articles, or other information
on the history of poor farms in Multnomah County, other than Edgefield which
opened in 1911 in Troutdale?<BR><BR><BR><BR>
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<BR>To: or-roots mail list <BR>Subject: Re: [or-roots] Is it slow or am I
missing emails? <BR><BR><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I'm getting emails sporadically but wonder if it's one
way. I'm stalled out so haven't had much to
contribute.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE><BR><BR>________________________________________<BR>PeoplePC Online<BR>A better way to Internet<BR>http://www.peoplepc.com</PRE><BR><BR><BR><BR>--Forwarded
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vAlign=top>Well, I have located mine in Oregon but just am not able to
prove the date of her death. It gets very frustrating. All the
family trees I have found list her date of death as 9 March 1893 but no
one seems to know where they found it or if it is accurate.
<BR><BR>Emma Kellogg Langworthy (sometimes Longworthy - with or without
the "y") died while an inmate at the Hawthorn Insane Asylum. She
was apparently buried there and when everyone was moved, created and put
into storage her cremains seem to be among the ones that lost
labels. <BR><BR>The Oregon State Hospital people have been helpful
as have all the places they sent me for info but nothing is
forthcoming. Apparently she died before regular records were kept
and the Asylum records are long gone. No full record of her
commitment or her death. Someone here helped me<BR>find an ab
breviated record of her commitment but that is all so
far,<BR><BR>I haven't found anything on her husband, Andrew
Jackson Langworthy who left her there and moved back to Michigan with
eight kids, later to marry his niece and move to
Missouri.<BR><BR><BR>Penny<BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 9/16/09, lschiendel
<I><lschiendel@aol.com></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From:
lschiendel <lschiendel@aol.com><BR>Subject: Re: [or-roots] Is it
slow or am I missing emails?<BR>To: "or-roots mail list"
<or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us><BR>Date: Wednesday,
September 16, 2009, 11:47 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=ecxplainMail>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I've been watching also. Very
very quiet. Maybe everyone has found their
relatives.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Lillian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV><A
href="http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots"></A><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR><BR><BR>--Forwarded
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<BR><BR><BR>Was the asylum a public or private one? In Multnomah County? Mult.
Co. has county archives...<BR><BR><BR><BR>
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Message----- <BR>From: Penny/Leigh <BR>Sent: Sep 17, 2009 3:57 PM <BR>To:
or-roots mail list <BR>Subject: Re: [or-roots] Is it slow or am I missing
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<TD vAlign=top>Well, I have located mine in Oregon but just am not
able to prove the date of her death. It gets very frustrating.
All the family trees I have found list her date of death as 9 March
1893 but no one seems to know where they found it or if it is
accurate. <BR><BR>Emma Kellogg Langworthy (sometimes Longworthy
- with or without the "y") died while an inmate at the Hawthorn Insane
Asylum. She was apparently buried there and when everyone was
moved, created and put into storage her cremains seem to be among the
ones that lost labels. <BR><BR>The Oregon State Hospital people
have been helpful as have all the places they sent me for info but
nothing is forthcoming. Apparently she died before regular
records were kept and the Asylum records are long gone. No full
record of her commitment or her death. Someone here helped me
find an ab breviated record of her commitment but that is all so
far,<BR><BR>I haven't found anything on her husband, Andrew
Jackson Langworthy who left her there and moved back to Michigan with
eight kids, later to marry his niece and move to
Missouri.<BR><BR><BR>Penny<BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 9/16/09, lschiendel
<I><lschiendel@aol.com></I></B> wrote:<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From:
lschiendel <lschiendel@aol.com><BR>Subject: Re: [or-roots] Is
it slow or am I missing emails?<BR>To: "or-roots mail list"
<or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us><BR>Date: Wednesday,
September 16, 2009, 11:47 PM<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=ecxplainMail><BR>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I've been watching also.
Very very quiet. Maybe everyone has found their
relatives.</FONT></DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Lillian</FONT></DIV><BR>
<DIV> </DIV><A
href="http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots"></A><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE><BR><BR>________________________________________<BR>PeoplePC Online<BR>A better way to Internet<BR>http://www.peoplepc.com</PRE><BR><BR><BR><BR>--Forwarded
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pswitzertatum@peoplepc.com; or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us<BR>Date: Thu,
17 Sep 2009 16:36:53 -0700<BR>Subject: Re: [or-roots] Is it slow or am I
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vAlign=top>Hawthorn Insane Asylum is now the Oregon State Hospital and
is in Lane County. I have spent hours on the phone and countless
hours in research. I am open to any suggestions. I am in
Michigan so can't just run to an Oregon library but have been very
fortunate to find helpful people at nearly every turn.
<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 9/17/09, Paulette
<I><pswitzertatum@peoplepc.com></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From:
Paulette <pswitzertatum@peoplepc.com><BR>Subject: Re: [or-roots]
Is it slow or am I missing emails?<BR>To: "or-roots mail list"
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Was the asylum a public or private one? In Multnomah County? Mult. Co.
has county archives...<BR><BR><BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px">-----Original
Message----- <BR>From: Penny/Leigh <BR>Sent: Sep 17, 2009 3:57 PM
<BR>To: or-roots mail list <BR>Subject: Re: [or-roots] Is it slow or
am I missing emails? <BR><BR>
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<TD vAlign=top>Well, I have located mine in Oregon but just am
not able to prove the date of her death. It gets very
frustrating. All the family trees I have found list her date
of death as 9 March 1893 but no one seems to know where they
found it or if it is accurate. <BR><BR>Emma Kellogg
Langworthy (sometimes Longworthy - with or without the "y")
died while an inmate at the Hawthorn Insane Asylum. She
was apparently buried there and when everyone was moved,
created and put into storage her cremains seem to be among the
ones that lost labels. <BR><BR>The Oregon State Hospital
people have been helpful as have all the places they sent me
for info but nothing is forthcoming. Apparently she died
before regular records were kept and the Asylum records are
long gone. No full record of her commitment or her
death. Someone here helped me find an ab breviated
record of her commitment but that is all
so<BR>far,<BR><BR>I haven't found anything on her
husband, Andrew Jackson Langworthy who left her there and
moved back to Michigan with eight kids, later to marry his
niece and move to Missouri.<BR><BR><BR>Penny<BR><BR>--- On
<B>Wed, 9/16/09, lschiendel
<I><lschiendel@aol.com></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From:
lschiendel <lschiendel@aol.com><BR>Subject: Re:
[or-roots] Is it slow or am I missing emails?<BR>To:
"or-roots mail list"
<or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us><BR>Date:
Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 11:47 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=ecxplainMail>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I've been watching
also. Very very quiet. Maybe everyone has
found their relatives.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Lillian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV><A
href="http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots"
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or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us; pswitzertatum@peoplepc.com<BR>Date: Thu,
17 Sep 2009 19:52:20 -0400<BR>Subject: Re: [or-roots] Is it slow or am I
missing emails?<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><FONT id=ecxrole_document
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman Baltic"><BR>
<DIV>The Hawthorne Asylum was in Portland and is not, nor ever was, the same
as <BR>the Oregon State Hospital which is in Salem in Marion County. Not
in Lane <BR>County. Some of the oldest parts of the State Hospital (the parts
used in the <BR>movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest) are being torn down to
be replaced with <BR>new buildings.</DIV><BR>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>According to a web site Salem Online History through the Salem Public
<BR>Library, Dr. Hawthorne first opened his hospital for the "insane" in
Portland in <BR>1862. In 1883 the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was opened.
</DIV><BR>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>The canisters you referred to with cremains are here in Salem at the
Oregon <BR>State Hospital. Just this week there has been a legal Public Notice
in the <BR>Statesman Journal "Notice of intent to publish the names of the
individuals <BR>whose cremains are in custody of Oregon State Hospital."
..."Shall <BR>disclose to the general public the name and the dates of birth
and death of <BR>persons whose cremated remains are in the possession of the
department for the <BR>purposes of: giving a family member an opportunity to
claim the cremated remains <BR>and creating a memorial for those persons
whose cremated remains are not <BR>claimed."</DIV><BR>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>What the notice does not mention is that many of the canisters no longer
<BR>have a label that is legible or a label at
<BR>all.
<BR>Mimi Stang</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR>--Forwarded Message
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or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us<BR>Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:03:51
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<DIV><FONT size=5 face="Times New Roman">This is interesting I wonder if
Norbert <BR>is one of them?</FONT></DIV><BR>
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<BR><A title=MStang5165@aol.com
href="mailto:MStang5165@aol.com">MStang5165@aol.com</A> </DIV><BR>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none"><B>To:</B>
<A title=or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us
href="mailto:or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</A>
<BR>; <A title=pswitzertatum@peoplepc.com
href="mailto:pswitzertatum@peoplepc.com">pswitzertatum@peoplepc.com</A>
</DIV><BR>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none"><B>Sent:</B>
Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:52 <BR>PM</DIV><BR>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none"><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [or-roots] Is it slow or am <BR>I missing emails?</DIV><BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT id=ecxrole_document color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman Baltic"><BR>
<DIV>The Hawthorne Asylum was in Portland and is not, nor ever was, the same
<BR>as the Oregon State Hospital which is in Salem in Marion
County. Not in <BR>Lane County. Some of the oldest parts of the State
Hospital (the parts used in <BR>the movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest)
are being torn down to be replaced <BR>with new buildings.</DIV><BR>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>According to a web site Salem Online History through the Salem Public
<BR>Library, Dr. Hawthorne first opened his hospital for the "insane" in
Portland <BR>in 1862. In 1883 the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was opened.
</DIV><BR>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>The canisters you referred to with cremains are here in Salem at the
<BR>Oregon State Hospital. Just this week there has been a legal Public
Notice in <BR>the Statesman Journal "Notice of intent to publish the names
of the <BR>individuals whose cremains are in custody of Oregon State
Hospital." <BR>..."Shall disclose to the general public the name and
the dates of birth and <BR>death of persons whose cremated remains are in
the possession of the <BR>department for the purposes of: giving a family
member an opportunity to claim <BR>the cremated remains and creating a
memorial for those persons whose <BR>cremated remains are not
claimed."</DIV><BR>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>What the notice does not mention is that many of the canisters no
longer <BR>have a label that is legible or a label at
<BR>all.
<BR>Mimi Stang</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>How about changing the subject line,
<BR>please?</FONT></DIV><BR>
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<BR><A title=madrake@techline.com href="mailto:madrake@techline.com">Marilyn
<BR>Drake</A> </DIV><BR>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none"><B>To:</B>
<A title=or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us
href="mailto:or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">or-roots mail list</A>
</DIV><BR>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none"><B>Sent:</B>
Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:03 <BR>PM</DIV><BR>
<DIV
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Re: [or-roots] Is it slow or am <BR>I missing emails?</DIV><BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT size=5 face="Times New Roman">This is interesting I wonder if
<BR>Norbert is one of them?</FONT></DIV><BR>
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<BR><A title=MStang5165@aol.com
href="mailto:MStang5165@aol.com">MStang5165@aol.com</A> </DIV><BR>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none"><B>To:</B>
<A title=or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us
href="mailto:or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</A>
<BR>; <A title=pswitzertatum@peoplepc.com
href="mailto:pswitzertatum@peoplepc.com">pswitzertatum@peoplepc.com</A>
<BR></DIV><BR>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none"><B>Sent:</B>
Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:52 <BR>PM</DIV><BR>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none"><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [or-roots] Is it slow or <BR>am I missing emails?</DIV><BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT id=ecxrole_document color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman Baltic"><BR>
<DIV>The Hawthorne Asylum was in Portland and is not, nor ever was, the
same <BR>as the Oregon State Hospital which is in Salem in Marion
County. Not in <BR>Lane County. Some of the oldest parts of the State
Hospital (the parts used <BR>in the movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest)
are being torn down to be <BR>replaced with new buildings.</DIV><BR>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>According to a web site Salem Online History through the Salem Public
<BR>Library, Dr. Hawthorne first opened his hospital for the "insane" in
<BR>Portland in 1862. In 1883 the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was
opened. <BR></DIV><BR>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>The canisters you referred to with cremains are here in Salem at the
<BR>Oregon State Hospital. Just this week there has been a legal Public
Notice <BR>in the Statesman Journal "Notice of intent to publish the names
of the <BR>individuals whose cremains are in custody of Oregon State
Hospital." <BR>..."Shall disclose to the general public the name and
the dates of birth and <BR>death of persons whose cremated remains are in
the possession of the <BR>department for the purposes of: giving a family
member an opportunity to <BR>claim the cremated remains and creating
a memorial for those persons <BR>whose cremated remains are not
claimed."</DIV><BR>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>What the notice does not mention is that many of the canisters no
<BR>longer have a label that is legible or a label at
<BR>all.
<BR>Mimi Stang</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR>
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or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us<BR>Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:51:13
-0700<BR>Subject: [or-roots] Please change the subject
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Palatino Linotype'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Yes,
please<BR>DO change the subject line. Many of us scan subject lines to
see if an item is<BR>of interest before we open or delete it. We don’t
want to miss all your<BR>good stuff!</SPAN></FONT></P><BR><BR>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Palatino Linotype'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P><BR><BR>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us<BR>[mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Ray
Powell<BR><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday,
September 17, 2009<BR>8:28 PM<BR><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> or-roots<BR>mail list<BR><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [or-roots] Is it slow<BR>or
am I missing emails?</SPAN></FONT></P><BR><BR></DIV><BR><BR>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P><BR><BR>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=black size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">How about changing
the subject line,<BR>please?</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black
face="Times New Roman Baltic"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman Baltic'; COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P><BR><BR></DIV><BR><BR>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">----- Original
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<P
style="BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228); -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous"
class=ecxMsoNormal><B><FONT color=black size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
color=black size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=madrake@techline.com href="mailto:madrake@techline.com">Marilyn
Drake</A><BR></SPAN></FONT></P><BR><BR></DIV><BR><BR>
<DIV><BR><BR>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal><B><FONT color=black size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
color=black size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us
href="mailto:or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">or-roots mail list</A>
</SPAN></FONT></P><BR><BR></DIV><BR><BR>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><B><FONT color=black size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
color=black size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Thursday,
September 17, 2009 7:03 PM</SPAN></FONT></P><BR><BR></DIV><BR><BR>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><B><FONT color=black size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
color=black size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re: [or-roots] Is
it slow or am I missing emails?</SPAN></FONT></P><BR><BR></DIV><BR><BR>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman Baltic'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P><BR><BR></DIV><BR><BR>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=black size=5 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 18pt">This is interesting I wonder if
Norbert is<BR>one of them?</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black
face="Times New Roman Baltic"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman Baltic'; COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P><BR><BR></DIV><BR><BR>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
color=black size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=MStang5165@aol.com
href="mailto:MStang5165@aol.com">MStang5165@aol.com</A><BR></SPAN></FONT></P><BR><BR></DIV><BR><BR>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
color=black size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us
href="mailto:or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</A><BR>;
<A title=pswitzertatum@peoplepc.com
href="mailto:pswitzertatum@peoplepc.com">pswitzertatum@peoplepc.com</A><BR></SPAN></FONT></P><BR><BR></DIV><BR><BR>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
color=black size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Thursday,
September 17, 2009 4:52 PM</SPAN></FONT></P><BR><BR></DIV><BR><BR>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><B><FONT color=black size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
color=black size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re: [or-roots]
Is it slow or am I missing emails?</SPAN></FONT></P><BR><BR></DIV><BR><BR>
<DIV><BR><BR>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3
face="Times New Roman Baltic"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman Baltic'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P><BR><BR></DIV><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT id=ecxrole_document color=black size=3
face="Times New Roman Baltic"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman Baltic'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The
Hawthorne Asylum was in Portland<BR>and is not</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=blue
face="Times New Roman Baltic"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman Baltic'; COLOR: blue">
…</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black face="Times New Roman Baltic"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman Baltic'; COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR></DIV><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>--Forwarded
Message Attachment--<BR>From: whizinc@comcast.net<BR>To:
or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us<BR>Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:39:24
-0700<BR>Subject: Re: [or-roots] Hawthorne
Asylum<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx088083204-18092009>Hi
Mimi,</SPAN></DIV><BR>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx088083204-18092009>How do we find out
the <BR>names on that list?</SPAN></DIV><BR>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
class=ecx088083204-18092009>Thanks,</SPAN></DIV><BR>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
class=ecx088083204-18092009>Ronda</SPAN></DIV><BR><BR>
<DIV dir=ltr lang=en-us class=ecxOutlookMessageHeader align=left><BR>
<HR>
<BR><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B>
or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us
<BR>[mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us] <B>On Behalf Of
<BR></B>MStang5165@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:52
<BR>PM<BR><B>To:</B> or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us;
<BR>pswitzertatum@peoplepc.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [or-roots] Is it slow or
am I <BR>missing emails?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV><BR>
<DIV></DIV><FONT id=ecxrole_document size=3 face="Times New Roman Baltic"><BR>
<DIV>The Hawthorne Asylum was in Portland and is not, nor ever was, the same
as <BR>the Oregon State Hospital which is in Salem in Marion County. Not
in Lane <BR>County. Some of the oldest parts of the State Hospital (the parts
used in the <BR>movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest) are being torn down to
be replaced with <BR>new buildings.</DIV><BR>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>According to a web site Salem Online History through the Salem Public
<BR>Library, Dr. Hawthorne first opened his hospital for the "insane" in
Portland in <BR>1862. In 1883 the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was opened.
</DIV><BR>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>The canisters you referred to with cremains are here in Salem at the
Oregon <BR>State Hospital. Just this week there has been a legal Public Notice
in the <BR>Statesman Journal "Notice of intent to publish the names of the
individuals <BR>whose cremains are in custody of Oregon State Hospital."
..."Shall <BR>disclose to the general public the name and the dates of birth
and death of <BR>persons whose cremated remains are in the possession of the
department for the <BR>purposes of: giving a family member an opportunity to
claim the cremated remains <BR>and creating a memorial for those persons
whose cremated remains are not <BR>claimed."</DIV><BR>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>What the notice does not mention is that many of the canisters no longer
<BR>have a label that is legible or a label at
<BR>all.
<BR>Mimi Stang</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR>--Forwarded Message
Attachment--<BR>From: rgust@netwtc.net<BR>To:
or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us<BR>Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:27:37
-0500<BR>Subject: Re: [or-roots] Hawthorne
Asylum<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The Asylum Cemetery is a book published by Susan Bell in
<BR>1991.Published by the Willamette Valley Genealogical Society P.O.
Cox 2083 <BR>Salem Oregon 97308</FONT></DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>As my GG grandfather is buried there I hired a
researcher <BR>to find him and she sent me information from that book. On page
3 it states <BR>until such time as the State was able to afford the
establishment of an asylum <BR>in Salem, it would be state policy to use the
facilities of the recently open <BR>Hawthorne Asylum in Portland. In the fall
of 1880 the Oregon State Legislature <BR>appropriated $100,000. for the
building of the Oregon State Insane Asylum. <BR>Page 4 has a notice of the
completion and invited the public to inspect the <BR>premise in the fall of
1883 with a notice in the paper dated October 24
<BR>1883.</FONT></DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>On page 9 the Daily Oregonian carried an eyewitness
<BR>account of the transfer by train of male patients from Portland's
Hawthorne <BR>Asylum to their new home in Salem. (For details on the day's
events, as well as <BR>lists of the patients transferred to Salem that day and
the next, see "Beaver <BR>Briefs, " Vol 23 pp 21-24.</FONT></DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>In 1913 the name was changed to the Oregon State
<BR>Hospital.Page 12 tells of the bill S.B. 109 of the deposition of the
<BR>bodies.If not claimed within one week of death shall be delivered by the
<BR>officers of such institution for consumption at the crematory and
the <BR>ashes sent to the relatives or other persons having an interest in the
deceased <BR>if requested.</FONT></DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Section 3 All remains of persons who have heretofore
died, <BR>as inmates of the Oregon State Insane Asylum, and which have been
buried in the <BR>burying ground belonging to said institution, shall be
exhumed and cremated in <BR>said crematory and all monuments marking the
graves of such persons, shall be <BR>removed and placed in some suitable place
on the Cottage Farm.</FONT></DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Page 15 For the remainder of the Cemetery's previous
<BR>residents, their last resting place became the basement of the Adolescent
Ward <BR>until 19 76 when all were place in vaults in the Memorial
Circle on the <BR>hospital grounds. Each receptacle is numbered and
cross-referenced.</FONT></DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Patient 637 and his wife patient 595 are in a vault in
the <BR>Memorial Circle. </FONT></DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I would be most interested in following the information
<BR>about the release of names </FONT>in the Statesman Journal </DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Thank you ,</FONT></DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Susie in Iowa</FONT></DIV><BR>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV><BR>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228); font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous"><B>From:</B>
<BR><A title=MStang5165@aol.com
href="mailto:MStang5165@aol.com">MStang5165@aol.com</A> </DIV><BR>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none"><B>To:</B>
<A title=or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us
href="mailto:or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</A>
<BR>; <A title=pswitzertatum@peoplepc.com
href="mailto:pswitzertatum@peoplepc.com">pswitzertatum@peoplepc.com</A>
</DIV><BR>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none"><B>Sent:</B>
Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:52 <BR>PM</DIV><BR>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none"><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [or-roots] Is it slow or am <BR>I missing emails?</DIV><BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT id=ecxrole_document color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman Baltic"><BR>
<DIV>The Hawthorne Asylum was in Portland and is not, nor ever was, the same
<BR>as the Oregon State Hospital which is in Salem in Marion
County. Not in <BR>Lane County. Some of the oldest parts of the State
Hospital (the parts used in <BR>the movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest)
are being torn down to be replaced <BR>with new buildings.</DIV><BR>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>According to a web site Salem Online History through the Salem Public
<BR>Library, Dr. Hawthorne first opened his hospital for the "insane" in
Portland <BR>in 1862. In 1883 the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was opened.
</DIV><BR>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>The canisters you referred to with cremains are here in Salem at the
<BR>Oregon State Hospital. Just this week there has been a legal Public
Notice in <BR>the Statesman Journal "Notice of intent to publish the names
of the <BR>individuals whose cremains are in custody of Oregon State
Hospital." <BR>..."Shall disclose to the general public the name and
the dates of birth and <BR>death of persons whose cremated remains are in
the possession of the <BR>department for the purposes of: giving a family
member an opportunity to claim <BR>the cremated remains and creating a
memorial for those persons whose <BR>cremated remains are not
claimed."</DIV><BR>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>What the notice does not mention is that many of the canisters no
longer <BR>have a label that is legible or a label at
<BR>all.
<BR>Mimi Stang</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR>
<HR>
<BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>or-roots
mailing
<BR>list<BR>or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us<BR>http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR>--Forwarded
Message Attachment--<BR>From: MStang5165@aol.com<BR>To:
or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us<BR>Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:14:40
-0400<BR>Subject: Re: [or-roots] Hawthorne
Asylum<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><FONT id=ecxrole_document color=#000000
size=3 face="Times New Roman Baltic"><BR>
<DIV>I am familiar with the book you cited - in fact, Sue Bell is a friend.
<BR>But note that the title is the "Asylum Cemetery." It concerns the old
<BR>cemetery there - the bodies were removed, cremated and placed in
the <BR>canisters - and documented. I believe that this is just a small number
of the <BR>cremains that are actually held by the Oregon State
Hospital.</DIV><BR>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>If you do a Google search for "cremains at Oregon State Hospital" you
will <BR>get 2,600 hits! The one from the New York Times (quoted from The
<BR>Oregonian) is quite good and gives the number as 3,489 cremains that
are <BR>there in canisters. And the notation that many of the labels are
no longer <BR>legible.</DIV><BR>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>The Public Notice in the Statesman Journal gives the following: Family
<BR>members may report their objection to the publication of a relative's
<BR>information by contacting DHS at: <A
href="mailto:oshcremains@state.or.us">oshcremains@state.or.us</A>.
<BR> However, I have tried using this URL a number of times and it does
not <BR>seem to work! Never brings up an Oregon State Hospital web
<BR>site. </DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<BR>Mimi Stang</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR>--Forwarded Message
Attachment--<BR>From: LinLouVan@aol.com<BR>To:
or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us<BR>Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:24:33
-0400<BR>Subject: Re: [or-roots] Hawthorne
Asylum<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><FONT id=ecxrole_document color=#000000
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<DIV>In a message dated 9/18/2009 8:20:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
<BR>MStang5165@aol.com writes:</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><FONT
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman Baltic">The Public Notice in the Statesman Journal
gives <BR>the following: Family members may report their objection to the
publication of <BR>a relative's information by contacting DHS at: <A
title=mailto:oshcremains@state.or.us
href="mailto:oshcremains@state.or.us">oshcremains@state.or.us</A>.
<BR> However, I have tried using this URL a number of times and it does
not <BR>seem to work! Never brings up an Oregon State Hospital web
<BR>site. </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>
<DIV></DIV><BR>
<DIV>The probable reason you do not get a website is that this is an email
<BR>address -- NOT a URL link.</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR>--Forwarded Message
Attachment--<BR>From: pmml@meritel.net<BR>To:
or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us; pswitzertatum@peoplepc.com<BR>Date: Fri,
18 Sep 2009 08:32:40 -0700<BR>Subject: Re: [or-roots] Is it slow or am I
missing emails?<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Of intrest here is people often were clasified as
<BR>insane with physical problems that affected mentation. Diabetics,
<BR>Syphalis's</FONT></DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>etc. </FONT></DIV><BR>
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<BR><A title=MStang5165@aol.com
href="mailto:MStang5165@aol.com">MStang5165@aol.com</A> </DIV><BR>
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<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none"><B>To:</B>
<A title=or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us
href="mailto:or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</A>
<BR>; <A title=pswitzertatum@peoplepc.com
href="mailto:pswitzertatum@peoplepc.com">pswitzertatum@peoplepc.com</A>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none"><B>Sent:</B>
Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:52 <BR>PM</DIV><BR>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none"><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [or-roots] Is it slow or am <BR>I missing emails?</DIV><BR>
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face="Times New Roman Baltic"><BR>
<DIV>The Hawthorne Asylum was in Portland and is not, nor ever was, the same
<BR>as the Oregon State Hospital which is in Salem in Marion
County. Not in <BR>Lane County. Some of the oldest parts of the State
Hospital (the parts used in <BR>the movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest)
are being torn down to be replaced <BR>with new buildings.</DIV><BR>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>According to a web site Salem Online History through the Salem Public
<BR>Library, Dr. Hawthorne first opened his hospital for the "insane" in
Portland <BR>in 1862. In 1883 the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was opened.
</DIV><BR>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>The canisters you referred to with cremains are here in Salem at the
<BR>Oregon State Hospital. Just this week there has been a legal Public
Notice in <BR>the Statesman Journal "Notice of intent to publish the names
of the <BR>individuals whose cremains are in custody of Oregon State
Hospital." <BR>..."Shall disclose to the general public the name and
the dates of birth and <BR>death of persons whose cremated remains are in
the possession of the <BR>department for the purposes of: giving a family
member an opportunity to claim <BR>the cremated remains and creating a
memorial for those persons whose <BR>cremated remains are not
claimed."</DIV><BR>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>What the notice does not mention is that many of the canisters no
longer <BR>have a label that is legible or a label at
<BR>all.
<BR>Mimi Stang</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR>
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