<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'><P>Not Only Clark but also Skamania and Klicitat, but we have also found</P>
<P>many Washingtonians went over to Wasco and Hood River to get married.</P>
<P>I am having problems find the marriage of my Parents, but Oregon</P>
<P>Between 1929 and 1945 if I remember the dates correctly did not</P>
<P>keep a state wide marriage index so you have to search each county.</P>
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<P>Glen Jones<BR><BR></P>
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<B>From: </B>"Denise Sproed" <DeniseSproed@onlinenw.com><BR><B>To: </B>"or-roots mail list" <or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us><BR><B>Sent: </B>Friday, January 6, 2012 7:56:55 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [or-roots] Vital Records and 2nd question<BR><BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Two thoughts on the missing marriage events. 1. Have you looked in Clark County, Washington? A lot of Oregonians would go over the state line to be married with less blood work and paperwork delay. 2. Often the date and location of marriage are listed in the divorce records.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">And on two dates for divorces. Either they didn’t complete the first divorce or perhaps they remarried and then divorced. I have two of those in my family branches.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Denise Sproed</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">A member of the Association of Professional Genealogists</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 9pt"></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">The web page I made for my parents is at: <A href="http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~merritt/" target=_blank>http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~merritt/</A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 9pt"></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">My genealogy related pages are at:<BR><A href="http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~merritt/" target=_blank>http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~merritt/</A><BR>and <A href="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~merritt/" target=_blank>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~merritt/</A><BR>The latter created using John Cardinal's Second Site</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 9pt"></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">User of The Master Genealogist (TMG) <A href="http://www.whollygenes.com/" target=_blank>http://www.whollygenes.com/</A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 9pt"></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ronda Howard<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:43 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'or-roots mail list'<BR><B>Subject:</B> [or-roots] Vital Records and 2nd question</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Hi Layne and everyone,</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Are other years available for those marriage returns?</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">I don’t seem to be able to find my father-in-law’s first marriage. John Brewer Howard married Doris Unknown on unknown date. I can find two divorce records for them. I don’t know why there are two records with two dates. I do know that John Brewer Howard married Nancy Anderson in Chicago, IL on Dec 15, 1947. Any ideas would be welcome.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Thanks!</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Ronda</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A href="mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us" target=_blank>or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</A> <A href="mailto:[mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us]" target=_blank>[mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us]</A> <B>On Behalf Of </B>SAWYER, Layne G<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:57 AM<BR><B>To:</B> or-roots mail list (<A href="mailto:or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us" target=_blank>or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</A>)<BR><B>Subject:</B> [or-roots] 1961 Vital Records</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>OR-Rooters,</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Happy New Year to all. </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>To help you celebrate the New Year the 1961 Death Certificates, Marriage Returns and Divorce Returns are now available for public research.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>These records maybe researched in person or if you have an exact date and county you may request a copy from the Reference staff for just $5.00 (Out-of-state residents $10.00) at;</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>If you have never used the marriage returns they contain useful information that is not found in the Marriage Records maintained by the county clerk. The returns include occupations of the parties, number of times previously married and information on parents.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Here's hoping you have many genealogical successes in 2012.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Layne Sawyer</P>
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