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I think you are right, Darlene. If Dan checks out the references
you gave him earlier: <br>
(Also from Ancestry, from the National Archives: On August 4 (could
be 21 -- hard to read), 1890, Henry Rogers filed for invalid's
pension (Application No. 932645, Certiricate 6 73293) in
Minnesota. Service was F. 44. Wis. Inf. On Sep 6, 1904 Elizabeth M
Rogers filed for widow's pension (Application No. 813103,
Certificate No. 583574) in Oregon.) he should be able to determine
the actual date of death from Elizabeth's pension application.<br>
<br>
He can probably even find out from the National Archives who ordered
the headstone, would assume it was Elizabeth, or maybe it was just a
result of her notifying them of his death and they made the
headstone. It really shouldn't matter what company manufactured the
headstone. Veterans doesn't set the stone unless it is in a V.A.
cemetery so probably someone in the family arranged for setting the
stone. Older cemetery records being what they are, things were not
always annotated in the records like we might like but you just have
to move on. <br>
<br>
Sue<br>
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On 1/21/2012 7:52 PM, Darlene wrote:
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If we go back through these messages, there is one (can't find it
right now) where Dan referred to a memorial on the Find A Grave
web site. It has a photo of Henry's grave stone, the name William
Henry "Henry" Rogers, gives his date and place of birth, death in
1904 in Springfield, Lane Co., OR. It identifies his wife, and
four children. It also has a picture of a post card sent to
Gertie Brabham in Eugene (one of the children of Henry and
Elizabeth) from "Father and Mother". The individual who created
the memorial also has memorials for two of Henry & Elizabeth's
children, with photos of obituaries, Elizabeth's death
certificate, and a post card that Gertie wrote to her mother. The
email address of the person who created the memorial is available
on the Find A Grave page, and it seems to me that if she has that
much family information, she may have more to offer if Dan were to
contact her. For anyone on this list who wants to take a look,
the address for Henry's memorial is: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=34106056">http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=34106056</a><br>
<br>
Also, with the information from the National Archives regarding
Henry's Civil War service, which includes his location of death,
combined with his widow's application for a pension in September,
1904, the issue of when he died, and where he is buried should be
resolved. Seems to me that the only thing still lacking is Dan's
question as to what company manufactured Henry's gravestone.<br>
<br>
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On 1/21/2012 5:42 PM, Sue Steward wrote:
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That's true about the name but he spoke of seeing something in a
book in a store of a Henry Rogers died 1903 so thought possibly
this might be the one that was listed in the book.<br>
<br>
Sue<br>
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1/21/2012 4:34 PM, Linda Wiley wrote:
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<div><span>This is getting interesting. I wonder,
however---his legal name was William Henry Rogers and
this one has a middle initial after Henry.I've been
sending Dan some information off the list on finding
records, etc., and he asked for contacts for the Sons of
Union Veterans which I gave him.<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [or-roots] Headstone Laural hill Eugene<br>
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<h2>This is possibly the Henry Rogers you saw in the
book but it appears he was buried in a V. A.
Cemetery.<br>
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<h2><span class="yiv1181668476g_altTitle">Headstones
Provided for Deceased Union Civil War Veterans,
1879-1903</span></h2>
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class="yiv1181668476srchMatch">Rogers</span></span></td>
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<th>State of Cemetery:</th>
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<th>Date of Death:</th>
<td>9 Apr 1903</td>
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<th>Name:</th>
<td><span
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class="yiv1181668476srchMatch">Henry</span> F <span
class="yiv1181668476srchMatch">Rogers</span></span></td>
</tr>
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<th>Death Date:</th>
<td>9 Apr 1903</td>
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<th>Cemetery:</th>
<td>Los Angeles National
Cemetery</td>
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<tr>
<th>Cemetery Address:</th>
<td>950 South Sepulveda
Boulevard Los Angeles, CA
90049</td>
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<th>Buried At:</th>
<td>Section 8 Row F Site 13</td>
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On 1/21/2012 11:05 AM, Dan-M wrote:
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<div><font face="Arial">I was at the book store
before it became a feed store in Stayton,
there was a green book about 1 inch thick and
10x12 in size with regular type print.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"> It was an old soldiers
book, price 95. dollars, I saw in there, Henry
Rogers died in an old soldiers home in CA and
was moved to Oregon. This is what? About 10 or
so years ago, before I could find the money to
get that book that store had closed and those
books were gone. I was wondering, just where
if even that was my Henry said 1903, was that
old soldiers home? Might just have been a
residence providing these old people hospice
or what and where and who all those w words.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"> I was also wondering,
is there a guy version of DUV?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">Dan</font></div>
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id="yiv1181668476yui_3_2_0_21_132708102410682">Dan, I belong to the
daughters of Union Veterans of the
Civil War (DUV), Tent #2, South
Willamette Valley. I emailed our
Tent President, Carolyn Hall, for
some info and turns out she knows
you--you helped her with our
webpage. I recognized our DUV
wreath from the picture on
find-a-grave. She verified it is CO
F. Darleen provided good info in
her post about the
government-provided memorial
stones. Sons of Union Veterans has
an active project to seek out
un-recognized CW vets--ones that do
not have a headstone. I think this
national project started in 1996.
There might be info in his CW
records about the headstone. My
great grandfather, a CW vet, died in
1916, buried in Albany, and does not
have a government marker--just GAR
on the stone provided by his family,
so I couldn't check to see if it was
mentioned. Linda Wiley, Sublimity,
OR<br>
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<div>Sue is correct. It is a
Civil War military grave stone,
and reads CO. F, 44 WIS. INF<br>
<br>
I don't know what you have on
Henry Rogers other than what is
posted on your web site, but
here is what I have found:<br>
From Ancestry.com --<br>
Henry Rogers, resident of St
Lawrence, Wisconsin enlisted in
the Union army on 15 Oct 1864.
Rank at enlistment was Corporal,
state served Wisconsin. He
enlisted in Company F, Wisconsin
44th Infantry Regiment, was
mustered out on 03 Jun 1865,
died in Lane County, OR.
(Another record, not so
complete, says rank in &
rank out were both private). <br>
<br>
The grave marker was
(apparently) provided by the
Federal Government. It is the
same as many in the Jacksonville
Cemetery that I photographed,
and then researched the
individuals. There is a record
on Ancestry that lists headsones
provided for deceased Union
Civil War veterans, including
the company that made the
marker, but it only includes the
years 1879-1903. Since your
ancestor died (according to the
Find A Grave record) in 1904, he
would have missed the years
covered by the Ancestry record.
In your note on your web site,
you state that the 1905
Springfield census lists
Elizabeth as a widow, so death
date of 1904 is probably
correct. The record posted on
Ancestry is from the National
Archives, so you might be able
to learn more information there.<br>
<br>
Also from Ancestry, from the
National Archives: On August 4
(could be 21 -- hard to read),
1890, Henry Rogers filed for
invalid's pension (Application
No. 932645, Certiricate 673293)
in Minnesota. Service was F.
44. Wis. Inf. On Sep 6, 1904
Elizabeth M Rogers filed for
widow's pension (Application No.
813103, Certificate No. 583574)
in Oregon.<br>
<br>
Hope this gives you some answers
(?), and further sources to
contact.<br>
Darlene<br>
<br>
On 1/20/2012 8:47 AM, Sue
Steward wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">But the
stone doesn't say O.O.F., it
says CO F for Company F.<br>
<br>
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On 1/19/2012 9:27 PM, Dan JM
wrote:
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<div><font size="3">I hope
by now every one has
seen the pic of the head
stone says O.O.F.</font></div>
<div><font size="3"> And
its still a mystery.</font></div>
<div><font size="3">;)</font></div>
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