<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span><br></span></div><div> </div><div>Closed, yes, but they are available on the death index through 2008. You just can't go to the State Archives and see the original DC's for 50 years.<br></div> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Glen Jones <glenkc7mbm@comcast.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> or-roots mail list <or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, September 23, 2012 3:56 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [or-roots] lost family?<br> </font> </div>
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<div>when going through a probate they needed my half-brothers death certiciate</div>
<div>(it was a BIA probate and the government did not have the info but found the</div>
<div>funeral home and got the info then.)</div>
<div>I know death certificates are closed for 50 years<br>Glen Jones<br></div>
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<b>From: </b>"Lyn Horine" <l.horine@comcast.net><br><b>To: </b>"or-roots mail list" <or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us><br><b>Cc: </b>"or-roots mail list" <or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, September 23, 2012 3:10:05 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [or-roots] lost family?<br><br>
<div>His death certificate would not be available to us yet as his death occurred less than 50 years ago</div>
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<div>'lyn<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>On Sep 23, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Glen Jones <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:glenkc7mbm@comcast.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:glenkc7mbm@comcast.net">glenkc7mbm@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div>
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<div>There is a possiblity that no one in the family signed a death certificate at the </div>
<div>funeral home that handled the burial, I have that problem with a half-brother</div>
<div>in Alaska his death certificate has never been signed by anyone in the family</div>
<div>and the funeral home still has it and it cannot be filed with the State until a</div>
<div>family member signs it (or Someone) and so far non of his children has plans to go to</div>
<div>Alaska, I do not know if that could be applied to Oregon or not.</div>
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<div>Glen Jones<br><br></div>
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<div class="yiv809634829MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt;">I’m sorry, I didn’t mean because the cemetery was owned by the county, I meant ANY burial, ANYwhere.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv809634829MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt;">Looked up the probable statute:</span></div>
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<div class="yiv809634829MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt;">“</span><span class="yiv809634829outlineheading1"><span lang="EN">(7)</span></span><span lang="EN"> Each person in charge of any place for final disposition shall include in the authorization the date of disposition and shall complete and return all authorizations to the county registrar within 10 days after the date of the disposition. When there is no person in charge of the place for final disposition, a responsible party other than the funeral service practitioner or person acting as a funeral service practitioner shall complete and return the authorization to the county registrar within 10 days after the date of disposition.”</span></div>
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<div class="yiv809634829MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';" lang="EN">So, perhaps there is a record at the county registrar?</span></div>
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<div class="yiv809634829MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Tahoma', 'sans-serif';FONT-SIZE:10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Tahoma', 'sans-serif';FONT-SIZE:10pt;"> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a> [mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob&Diane<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> or-roots mail list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [or-roots] lost family?</span></div></div>
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<div style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt;" class="yiv809634829MsoNormal">In 1976 the county did not own the cemetery. The IOOF still sort of managed the cemetery. Their membership was dwindling. However a couple of years later much of the downtown area burned, which included those records. I am hoping someone will remember these people. Just so sad their family does not care. <br><br><br>Kith-n-Kin <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Kith-n-Kin@cox.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:Kith-n-Kin@cox.net">Kith-n-Kin@cox.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div style="" class="yiv809634829MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt;">Usually there is a “permit to bury” that has to be obtained. Is that what the “county taxing cemetery district” has? Or, is that something else.</span></div>
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<div style="" class="yiv809634829MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Tahoma', 'sans-serif';FONT-SIZE:10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Tahoma', 'sans-serif';FONT-SIZE:10pt;"> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a> [<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Diane<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> or-roots mail list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [or-roots] lost family?</span></div></div></div>
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<div style="" class="yiv809634829MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Arial', 'sans-serif';COLOR:navy;FONT-SIZE:13.5pt;">Pat, I have a copy of the map. I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information. The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976. No town close. 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest. Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles. Lots of area and few people, thankfully.</span></div></div>
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<div style="" class="yiv809634829MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Arial', 'sans-serif';COLOR:navy;FONT-SIZE:13.5pt;">No Church records either. </span></div></div>
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<div style="" class="yiv809634829MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Arial', 'sans-serif';COLOR:navy;FONT-SIZE:13.5pt;">Thanks for the reply. Diane</span></div></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4;" class="yiv809634829MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Arial', 'sans-serif';FONT-SIZE:10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Arial', 'sans-serif';FONT-SIZE:10pt;"> <a rel="nofollow" title="Kith-n-Kin@cox.net" ymailto="mailto:Kith-n-Kin@cox.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:Kith-n-Kin@cox.net">Kith-n-Kin</a> </span></div></div>
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<div style="" class="yiv809634829MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt;">From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records?</span></div>
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<div style="" class="yiv809634829MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt;">Sorry to say I don’t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don’t know anything about the surrounding towns.</span></div>
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<div style="" class="yiv809634829MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Tahoma', 'sans-serif';FONT-SIZE:10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Tahoma', 'sans-serif';FONT-SIZE:10pt;"> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a> [<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Diane<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> or-roots mail list<br><b>Subject:</b> [or-roots] lost family?</span></div></div></div>
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<div style="" class="yiv809634829MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Arial', 'sans-serif';COLOR:navy;FONT-SIZE:13.5pt;">Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. </span></div></div>
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<div style="" class="yiv809634829MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Arial', 'sans-serif';COLOR:navy;FONT-SIZE:13.5pt;">In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. </span></div></div>
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<div style="" class="yiv809634829MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Arial', 'sans-serif';COLOR:navy;FONT-SIZE:13.5pt;">They have no headstones, either. </span></div></div>
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<div style="" class="yiv809634829MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Arial', 'sans-serif';COLOR:navy;FONT-SIZE:13.5pt;">Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family.</span></div></div>
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<div style="" class="yiv809634829MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Arial', 'sans-serif';COLOR:navy;FONT-SIZE:13.5pt;">Thanks, Diane</span></div></div>
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