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<DIV>In the 1940 census she is listed as being born in Alabama, and is divorced. 
The 1941 city directory lists Josephine & John as both living 
on the same street but at different  house addresses. Wonder if 
it was a duplex???</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 12/13/2012 6:30:03 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
ssteward@ccountry.net writes:</DIV>
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  <H2>Even though 1910 and 1930 census show her birthplace as Georgia looks like 
  it could be her.  Might  be worth getting a copy of death 
  certificate and checking it out.<BR></H2>
  <H2><SPAN class=g_altTitle>1910 United States Federal Census</SPAN></H2>
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                  <TH>Name:</TH>
                  <TD><SPAN class=srchHit><SPAN class=srchMatch type="exact" 
                    score="293">Josephine</SPAN> <SPAN class=srchMatch 
                    type="exact" score="413" 
                best="true">Gross</SPAN></SPAN></TD></TR>
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                  <TH>Age in 1910:</TH>
                  <TD>39</TD></TR>
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                  <TH>Birth Year:</TH>
                  <TD>abt 1871<BR><SPAN 
                    title="Alternate date for this                                 record">[1871] 
                    </SPAN></TD></TR>
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                  <TH>Birthplace:</TH>
                  <TD>Georgia</TD></TR>
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                  <TH>Home in 1910:</TH>
                  <TD>Portland Ward 2, Multnomah, <SPAN class=srchMatch 
                    type="country" score="184">Oregon</SPAN></TD></TR>
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                  <TH>Race:</TH>
                  <TD>Black</TD></TR>
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                  <TH>Gender:</TH>
                  <TD>Female</TD></TR>
                <TR>
                  <TH>Relation to Head of House:</TH>
                  <TD>Wife</TD></TR>
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                  <TH>Marital Status:</TH>
                  <TD>Married</TD></TR>
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                  <TH>Spouse's Name:</TH>
                  <TD>John Gross</TD></TR>
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                  <TH>Father's Birthplace:</TH>
                  <TD>Georgia</TD></TR>
                <TR>
                  <TH>Mother's Birthplace:</TH>
                  <TD>Georgia</TD></TR>
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                  <TH>Neighbors:</TH>
                  <TD><A 
                    title=http://cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1910USCenIndex&sin=C0000006&siv=4449843_00194 
                    href="mip://09f66268/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1910USCenIndex&sin=C0000006&siv=4449843_00194">View 
                    others on page</A> <SPAN 
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                  <TH>Household Members:</TH>
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                        vAlign=top width="90%" align=left>Name</TH>
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                        vAlign=top width="9%" align=left>Age</TH></TR>
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                        <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 7px" width="90%" 
                          align=left><A 
                          title=http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1910USCenIndex&indiv=try&h=23362858 
                          href="http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1910USCenIndex&indiv=try&h=23362858">John 
                          Gross</A></TD>
                        <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 7px" width="9%" 
                        align=left>36</TD></TR>
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                        <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 7px" width="90%" 
                          align=left><A 
                          title=http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1910USCenIndex&indiv=try&h=164129111 
                          href="http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1910USCenIndex&indiv=try&h=164129111">Josephine 
                          Gross</A></TD>
                        <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 7px" width="9%" 
                        align=left>39</TD></TR>
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                        <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 7px" width="90%" 
                          align=left><A 
                          title=http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1910USCenIndex&indiv=try&h=23362876 
                          href="http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1910USCenIndex&indiv=try&h=23362876">George 
                          R?SE</A></TD>
                        <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 7px" width="9%" 
                        align=left>23</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR>
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        <P class=p_sourceTxt><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold" 
        class=srcCitLbl>Source Citation:</SPAN> Year: <I>1910</I>; Census Place: 
        <I>Portland Ward 2, Multnomah, Oregon</I>; Roll: <I>T624_1285</I>; Page: 
        <I>2B</I>; Enumeration District: <I>0128</I>; ; FHL microfilm: 
        <I>1375298</I>.</P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
  <H2><SPAN class=g_altTitle>1930 United States Federal Census</SPAN></H2>
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                  <TH>Name:</TH>
                  <TD><SPAN class=srchHit><SPAN class=srchMatch type="exact" 
                    score="306">Josephine</SPAN> <SPAN class=srchMatch 
                    type="exact" score="423" best="true">Gross</SPAN><BR><SPAN 
                    title="Alternate name for this                                   record">[<SPAN 
                    class=srchMatch type="exact" score="303">Josephine</SPAN> 
                    <SPAN class=srchMatch type="soundex" 
                    score="302">Grass</SPAN>] </SPAN></SPAN></TD></TR>
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                  <TH>Gender:</TH>
                  <TD>Female</TD></TR>
                <TR>
                  <TH>Birth Year:</TH>
                  <TD>abt 1872</TD></TR>
                <TR>
                  <TH>Birthplace:</TH>
                  <TD>Georgia</TD></TR>
                <TR>
                  <TH>Race:</TH>
                  <TD>Negro <SPAN class=g_srhint>(Black)</SPAN><BR><SPAN 
                    title="Alternate race for this                                 record">[Black] 
                    </SPAN></TD></TR>
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                  <TH>Home in 1930:</TH>
                  <TD>Portland, Multnomah, Oregon<BR><A 
                    title="javascript:showMap('Portland,                                Multnomah, Oregon')" 
                    href="javascript:showMap('Portland,                                Multnomah, Oregon')">View 
                    Map</A></TD></TR>
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                  <TH>Marital Status:</TH>
                  <TD>Divorced</TD></TR>
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                  <TH>Relation to Head of House:</TH>
                  <TD>Head</TD></TR>
                <TR>
                  <TH>Father's Birthplace:</TH>
                  <TD>Georgia</TD></TR>
                <TR>
                  <TH>Mother's Birthplace:</TH>
                  <TD>Georgia</TD></TR>
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                  <TH>Household Members:</TH>
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                        vAlign=top width="90%" align=left>Name</TH>
                        <TH style="PADDING-RIGHT: 7px" class=p_embedTableHead 
                        vAlign=top width="9%" align=left>Age</TH></TR>
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                        <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 7px" width="90%" 
                          align=left><A 
                          title=http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1930usfedcen&indiv=try&h=109543657 
                          href="http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1930usfedcen&indiv=try&h=109543657">Josephine 
                          Gross</A></TD>
                        <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 7px" width="9%" 
                        align=left>58</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR>
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        <P class=p_sourceTxt><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold" 
        class=srcCitLbl>Source Citation:</SPAN> Year: <I>1930</I>; Census Place: 
        <I>Portland</I>, <I>Multnomah</I>, <I><SPAN class=srchMatch 
        type="country" score="182">Oregon</SPAN></I>; Roll: <I>1950</I>; Page: 
        <I>9B</I>; Enumeration District: <I>135</I>; Image: <I>664.0</I>; FHL 
        microfilm: <I>2341684</I>.</P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
  <H2><SPAN class=g_altTitle>Oregon, Death Index, 1898-2008</SPAN></H2>
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                  <TH>Name:</TH>
                  <TD><SPAN class=srchHit><SPAN class=srchMatch type="exact" 
                    score="149">Josephine</SPAN> <SPAN class=srchMatch 
                    type="exact" score="209" 
                best="true">Gross</SPAN></SPAN></TD></TR>
                <TR>
                  <TH>Death Date:</TH>
                  <TD>28 Jul 1951</TD></TR>
                <TR>
                  <TH>Death Place:</TH>
                  <TD>Portland</TD></TR>
                <TR>
                  <TH>Spouse:</TH>
                  <TD>John</TD></TR>
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                  <TH>Certificate:</TH>
                  <TD>8310</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>So 
  is Josephine's maiden name Ramsey?<BR>
  <H2><SPAN class=g_altTitle>Washington, Marriage Records, 1865-2004</SPAN></H2>
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                  <TH>Name:</TH>
                  <TD><SPAN class=srchHit><SPAN class=srchMatch type="exact" 
                    score="180">James</SPAN> <SPAN class=srchMatch type="exact" 
                    score="163">S</SPAN> <SPAN class=srchMatch type="exact" 
                    score="253" best="true">Donald</SPAN></SPAN></TD></TR>
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                  <TH>Spouse:</TH>
                  <TD><SPAN class=srchMatch type="exact" score="35" 
                    best="true">Nellie</SPAN> Ramsey</TD></TR>
                <TR>
                  <TH>Marriage Date:</TH>
                  <TD>30 Dec 1926</TD></TR>
                <TR>
                  <TH>Marriage Place:</TH>
                  <TD>Clark</TD></TR>
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                  <TH>Reference Number:</TH>
                  <TD>swclkmc40194</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>On 
  12/13/2012 5:55 AM, <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated 
  title=mailto:MEMcDTT@aol.com href="mailto:MEMcDTT@aol.com">MEMcDTT@aol.com</A> 
  wrote:<BR></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:48b1c.111b88b2.3dfb3862@aol.com type="cite">
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    style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New
                          Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P>Hello OR 
    listers.</O:P></SPAN></P>
    <P style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New
                          Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Josephine GROSS 
    African American female born Alabama about 1871-1873.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
    <P style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New              Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I 
    found her name in her sister’s funeral notice.<BR>Funeral Notice, 
    <I>Oregonian,</I> Friday, 1 Dec 1944, p. 15, col. 4<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
    <P 
    style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-AUTOSPACE: ; mso-layout-grid-align: none" 
    class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New
                          Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">DONALD - Nov 29, 
    Nellie, aged 65 years of 1415 NE 1st ave; beloved wife of James S., 
    <B>sister of Josephine Gross</B>. Funeral services Monday, Dec. 4, at 2:30 
    P. M. at the Chapel of Miller & Tracey. Interment Rose City cemetery. BR 
    2691<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
    <P 
    style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-AUTOSPACE: ; mso-layout-grid-align: none" 
    class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New
                          Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Found her in 1920 and 
    1940 censuses but haven’t found her in 1910 or 1930 
    censuses<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
    <P 
    style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-AUTOSPACE: ; mso-layout-grid-align: none" 
    class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New
                          Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Surname, Given Name, 
    Age, Sex, Race, Birthplace, State, County, Location, Year (source 
    HQ)<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
    <P 
    style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-AUTOSPACE: ; mso-layout-grid-align: none" 
    class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New
                          Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">GROSS, Josephine, 49 
    [b.ca. 1871], F, B, AL, OR, Multnomah, Portland; 108-PCT, 
    <B>1920</B><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
    <P 
    style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-AUTOSPACE: ; mso-layout-grid-align: none" 
    class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New
                          Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Surname, Given Name, 
    Age, Sex, Race, Birthplace, State, County, Location, Year (source 
    HQ)<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
    <P 
    style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-AUTOSPACE: ; mso-layout-grid-align: none" 
    class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New
                          Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">GROSS, Josephine, 67 
    [b.ca. 1873], Female, --, --, Alabama, Oregon, Multnomah, Portland City 
    Election Precinct 104, Portland, Tract 3, <B>1940<O:P></O:P></B></SPAN></P>
    <P style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New
                          Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks in 
    advance.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
    <P style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New
                          Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Mike McDermott, San 
    Jose, CA<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P></DIV></FONT><BR>
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