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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I'm home now, so did a little more checking on Fred Lockley.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Lockley<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I wonder if this Mike Helm had any of the original materials. Remembering, of course, that we are "quessing" about who may really have bought or otherwise obtained the journal.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I just found the email I sent to this list in 2004 about the subject of Fred Lockley. Anne Billeter said this: <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre>Yes, the U of O's Knight Library's Oregon Collections has many scrapbooks<o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>of clippings of Fred Lockley's columns, AND they are indexed in a many<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>drawered-3x5 card file index. I believe the Lockley/Helm's books are<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>selected columns.<span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>So, perhaps the "collection" doesn't include original material after all. I should note that the articles that Lockley wrote appeared in the "Oregon Journal" - the afternoon newspaper for Portland from 1902 to 1982. The Journal was purchased by S I Newhouse and Advance Publications in 1961. They are also the owners of The Oregonian. The archives, according to the Wiki article, are maintained by the Oregonian. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I do wonder though, if he died in Gold Hill, in Jackson County, is it possible the material could have found its way to the Southern Oregon Historical Society there?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>http://www.sohs.org/<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>There is, there, an oral history titled <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Interviewed for her book ”Jackson County Conversations;” Flippin. Rosecran, Hay and Cook families histories; Rock Point; Gold Hill Chinese and area cemeteries<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>There is one called: Oral History Interview with Ida Cook<i> -- Found in <b>Scope & Content</b>: History of Cook </i></span><span class=hilite1><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>family</span></i></span><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>; school days in Gold Hill; life in Gold Hill, teachiing and teacher’s life in Gold Hill and Galls Creek; building Highway 99; workiing in fruit ...<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>It is possible that this is a clue to the journal. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I have been able to access some of the oral histories that mention my grandparents, and it is extremely interesting, especially if you happen to know the person being interviewed. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I did find a few items on the "Hays" and Cook families, including the "Hays Gall Cemetery" but nothing much with "Hay." Probably another incident where there are two pretty common spellings for one family...but when you are looking, be sure to use both spellings. If you asked for "Hay" and they have a journal for "Hays" they might not look further.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>There is one entry (Pam Smith) on ancestry.com/surnames.hay/ that indicates that James Willis was the only one to add an "s" to his name. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Further -- there is a William B Hay, b Virginia, m in KY to Elizabeth Sandsburg (other spellings), had a DLC in Josephine County. Is this the father of your James Willis? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>"733 Hay, William G., Josephine Co; b 1805, Lee Co, Va; Arr Are 1 Sept 1854; SC 10 Nov/1 Dec 1854; m Elizabeth Sandsburg, Oct 1833/5, Laurel Co, Ky." <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>From "Genealogical material in Oregon donation land claims" Vol III, Roseburg Land Office.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>There's an interesting conversation on the Ancestry boards:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>http://boards.ancestry.ie/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=1022&p=surnames.hay<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I note this because a book, "Indian Wars of the Rogue River" apparently references this family. The original ("The Early Indian Wars of Oregon" by Frances Fuller Victor)</span> <span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> was written in 1894, and updated in the 1964 book. You might want to check this out. Possible that the "journal" was from this generation, (Wm Ballinger, not James Willis).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>The original book is available many places, I found it at:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>https://ia600400.us.archive.org/33/items/indianwarsoregon00victrich/indianwarsoregon00victrich.pdf<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Page 340 mentions one H B Hayes on the Rogue River, and on page 349, there is a footnote with a petition from Phoenix mills signed by petitioners from Illinois Valley and Deer creek, including "William B. Hay", copied from B F Dowell's Indian war documents. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Again, the use of Hay/Hays/Hayes is a bit (a lot) confusing!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I don't know if this helps at all, but in my limited experience with family tales, I've found that they frequently get the gist right, but the details are fuzzy.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>So, I'd be looking at the Oregon State Library, the Oregon Historical Society, the Oregon Archives, the Southern Oregon versions of the above, as well as Josephine County. Maybe......<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Good luck,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Pat<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>In Tucson <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Kith-n-Kin [mailto:Kith-n-Kin@cox.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 26, 2015 12:36 PM<br><b>To:</b> Leslie Chapman; or-roots mail list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [or-roots] Journal<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I think the Knight Library at U of Oregon has a large collection, and knowledge of his work. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#575757'>Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S® 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Leslie Chapman <<a href="mailto:opera_70@yahoo.com">opera_70@yahoo.com</a>> <br>Date:01/26/2015 9:28 AM (GMT-08:00) <br>To: or-roots mail list <<a href="mailto:or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a>> <br>Cc: <br>Subject: Re: [or-roots] Journal <o:p></o:p></p><div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422290460266_8762"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>I am pretty sure you will have to go there unless there is a way to contact them to ask that question. I haven't been real impressed with their cooperativeness with my efforts at research. Since you are targeting a specific collection with a specific question you will probably get better results.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422290460266_8762"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422290460266_8762"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Les<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422290460266_8656"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422290460266_8655"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422290460266_8654"><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> Bob & Diane <</span><a href="mailto:whitehillranch@centurytel.net"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>whitehillranch@centurytel.net</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>><br><b>To:</b> or-roots mail list <</span><a href="mailto:or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 24, 2015 10:05 PM<br><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422290460266_8761">Subject:</b> Re: [or-roots] Journal</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422290460266_8694"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv2625738435><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422290460266_8693"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422290460266_8692"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Thanks Denise. How do you find a list of the folks he interviewed? I got hung up and went in circles!! Diane</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt' id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422290460266_8706"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id=yiv2625738435yqt35844><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422290460266_8758"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>----- Original Message -----<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>