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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>How many sources do you want to take information as fact? What do want, birth certificate and death certificate?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> or-roots <or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dale Harguess<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 10, 2018 9:19 AM<br><b>To:</b> or-roots mail list <or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [or-roots] Gary Murray, the Hutchinson Soper line is my Grandma Rena Hutchinson Reynolds side her mom was Clara Lee Hutchinson Soper<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I didn't mean to infer that the submitter's were bad. I know a lot of submitter's personally and they are extremely thorough in what they submit. Unfortunately, like "one size" doesn't fit all there are some that are not so accurate. I think it has gotten a lot worse since Ancestry bought them. They have a tendency to mess everything up, like when they bought Heritage Quest. I used to use them constantly but now I never do.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dale<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 8:41 AM, <<a href="mailto:bfain@frontiernet.net" target="_blank">bfain@frontiernet.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dale, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>May I call you Dale? You are right, Find a Grave is tool. Ancestry.com is a tool. The US Federal Census Records is a tool, however bad the information is. This site is a tool where people submit their information. I don’t know if what is submitted is good or bad. I have at time a problem with the way they provide it without a source. I like reading their input. As a family researcher, I use all the tool I can to gain information on my family. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Too bad you think “Find A Grave” often has bad information. I am a submitter and have created many records for my family. When I find wrong information I submitted a correction and it either fixed or a reason is given when not changed. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I always used information I have first-hand knowledge. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Have a great research day. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Babe J. Pickler Pierce Fain<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b> or-roots <<a href="mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us" target="_blank">or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dale Harguess<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 9, 2018 6:42 AM<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><b>To:</b> or-roots mail list <<a href="mailto:or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us" target="_blank">or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [or-roots] Gary Murray, the Hutchinson Soper line is my Grandma Rena Hutchinson Reynolds side her mom was Clara Lee Hutchinson Soper<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>You have to be careful with findagrave, often they have bad information. It is a tool but not the last one to use.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dale<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div id="m_-1104317822165665216DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellpadding=0 style='border:none;border-top:solid #D3D4DE 1.0pt'><tr><td width=55 style='width:41.25pt;border:none;padding:9.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon" target="_blank"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=46 height=29 style='width:.4791in;height:.302in' id="m_-1104317822165665216_x005f_x0000_i1025" src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif"></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=470 style='width:352.5pt;border:none;padding:9.0pt .75pt .75pt 75.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:13.5pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#41424E'>Virus-free. <a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link" target="_blank"><span style='color:#4453EA'>www.avast.com</span></a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 4:34 AM, <<a href="mailto:bfain@frontiernetnet" target="_blank">bfain@frontiernet.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Have you check the ”Find A Grave” Web site? I find many of my family grave site there and sometime an obituary is uploaded. I found my 8<sup>th</sup> paternal great grandmother Anna Barbara Schone Blaankenbaker Fleischmann Schlucter on that site.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>You can also request photos of the memorial site. Good Luck<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Good Luck<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>B Fain<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Searching for Pickler, Robbins, McDowall, Conquest, Kirk.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b> or-roots <<a href="mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us" target="_blank">or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Frances Vlahos Rohm<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 7, 2018 8:22 AM<br><b>To:</b> or-roots mail list <<a href="mailto:or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us" target="_blank">or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [or-roots] Gary Murray, the Hutchinson Soper line is my Grandma Rena Hutchinson Reynolds side her mom was Clara Lee Hutchinson Soper<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div id="m_-1104317822165665216m_1033770616148124573divtagdefaultwrapper"><p><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Gary Murray may have been in contact with my maternal grandmother Hazel Frances Shaver Vlahos about her biological mother. Her biological mother was Nettie Hutchinson. Her first name may have actually been Nancy but I dont know. She was briefly married to Ulysses Grant Shaver (son of Francis Marion Shaver and Nancy Turnbull(?) Shaver) and gave birth to Hazel and Clifford Shaver. The marriage did not last long. Any other information about Hutchinsons and/or Shavers would be appreciated. Frances Vlahos-Rohm</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></span></div><div id="m_-1104317822165665216m_1033770616148124573divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> or-roots <<a href="mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us" target="_blank">or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a>> on behalf of Cheryl Anderson <<a href="mailto:cheranderson1993@gmail.com" target="_blank">cheranderson1993@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 6, 2018 3:55 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us" target="_blank">or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [or-roots] Gary Murray, the Hutchinson Soper line is my Grandma Rena Hutchinson Reynolds side her mom was Clara Lee Hutchinson Soper</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>_______________________________________________<br>or-roots mailing list<br><a href="mailto:or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us" target="_blank">or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a><br><a href="http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots" target="_blank">http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots</a><br>Hosted by the State Library of Oregon. 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