<div><div dir="auto">Hi Glen and Jeff, just so you know, this is the OR-roots email list. It has been inactive for quite a while, which is why Jeff hasn’t been getting email from it, and why Glen got an email. </div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I don’t find anything new in trying to help you, Jeff. So sorry.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Jan</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM papaglen000--- via or-roots <<a href="mailto:or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
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<div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000"> I DON'T KNOW HOW OR WHEREYOU GOT MY E-MAIL ADDRESS, BUT I KNOW NOTHING</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">WHATSOVER OF THE NAMES YOU HAD IN YOUR E-MAIL TO ME. I RESEARCHED MY BAILEY</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">FAMILIES BACK TO YORKSHIRE ENGLAND SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND HAVE TRACED THEM</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">BACK TO THE 1400'S MY WIFE CAME FROM A FAMILY NAMED DEMOSS. SHE IS DESCENDED</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">FROM A PETER DEMOSS BORN IN 1788 IN VIRGINIA TO PRESENT TIME. SHE IS ALSO<br></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">DESCENDED FROM THE TOWNSENDS OF CENTRAL ENGLAND. THEY WERE MARQUESSAS</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">AND HAVE A MASSIVE RESIDENCE CALLED RAYNHAM HALL IN NORFOLK. I AM WONDERING</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">IF POSSIBLY YOU WERE CORRESPONDING EARLIER WITH SOMEONE ELSE AS I HAVE NO</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000"> SORRY, GLEN BAILEY, PORTLAND, OREGON</span></div>
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In a message dated 3/7/2019 9:44:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, <a href="mailto:jjmiller2005@comcast.net" target="_blank">jjmiller2005@comcast.net</a> writes:
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<p class="m_-2211328429136217807yiv5921857100MsoNormal">Is this email list still functioning? I don’t seem to be getting emails from it, and I used to get quite a lot. If it is, I need some help figuring out the identity of one of my great-great-grandfathers. Here is what I know:</p>
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<p class="m_-2211328429136217807yiv5921857100MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:8.0pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:106%">His children were Charles August Murray, b. 26 Jan 1896 and Lilian Murray b. around 1898. Charles was born in Oakland, CA. It appears Lilian was born in WA.</p>
<p class="m_-2211328429136217807yiv5921857100MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:8.0pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:106%">I believe the mother of those children was Ida B. Kroschel, b. about 1869 in Milford Township, MN.</p>
<p class="m_-2211328429136217807yiv5921857100MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:8.0pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:106%">I think Ida and the father separated before 1900 because Ida is shown as head of household with two kids living in Linn County, OR in the census.</p>
<p class="m_-2211328429136217807yiv5921857100MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:8.0pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:106%">According to Charles August Murray’s prison questionnaire, Lilian was living in Los Angeles in March 1928. (His mom is listed as Ida Czarske because she remarried.)</p>
<p class="m_-2211328429136217807yiv5921857100MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:8.0pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:106%">The 1910 census shows unknown for the birthplace of the father of Charles and Lilian. But the 1920 census shows MA for birthplace of his father and MN for mother. I looked at all CA,OR, WA 1900 census records for Murray with birthplace of MA and did not find anything.</p>
<p class="m_-2211328429136217807yiv5921857100MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:8.0pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:106%">1930 census for Charles shows dad from Minnesota so who knows.</p>
<p class="m_-2211328429136217807yiv5921857100MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:8.0pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:106%">My parents both did the autosomal DNA test with Ancestry.com, but I don’t know how to use it to solve this puzzle.</p>
<p class="m_-2211328429136217807yiv5921857100MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%">I’ve had this brick wall for years now. Any leads or tips will be most appreciated. If you don’t have any tips, I would appreciate at least one response just to know this list is still live.</p>
<p class="m_-2211328429136217807yiv5921857100MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%">Thanks!</p>
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