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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Trying to pin down a birth date for my Daughter-in-law's maternal Aunt Connie and I have a bit of a conundrum;</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Father; <span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Times New Roman,serif;mso-fareast-font-family:Times New Roman;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA">Howard Francis Gossman I have all the info I need on him, birth death date of funeral and marraige to;</span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Times New Roman,serif;mso-fareast-font-family:Times New Roman;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA"><br></span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Times New Roman,serif;mso-fareast-font-family:Times New Roman;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA">Mother; (presumably) <span>Opal Marie Schrautemier</span></span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Times New Roman,serif;mso-fareast-font-family:Times New Roman;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA"><span><br></span></span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Times New Roman,serif;mso-fareast-font-family:Times New Roman;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA"><span><span>19 October 1958 <span>Bend, Deschutes Co., Oregon; In the marriage index she is Opal <span>O'doherty</span></span></span><br></span></span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"> </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">the marriage is listed without the Marie in his obituary and here is where it get interesting; I find Opal M. a waitress at Superior Cafe in bend in the 1946 phone book, and living with the widow Mildred (Mrs Virgil H) and sister Betty who is a phone operator at Miller Ave.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">The problem is I find an online genealogy for this Opal listing her as deceased in 1951 even though it also has her marriage to Howard.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">The family is very elusive in official records in Minnesota where they move in 1959 and I find no record of Opal in any of my sources marrying an <span>Odoherty in Oregon, or elsewhere, I do find this;</span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div>The Bend Bulletin from Bend, Oregon on December 10, 1957 ...www.newspapers.com › newspage</div><div>.-01.307-t-IO-C SUMMONS r IN- THE CIRCUIT COUTT OF THE STATE OF OREGON FOR THE COUNTY OF DESCHUTES OPAL ODOHERTY, Plaintiff, vs.</div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">but I don't have access to the original to find his name. There is a Harry living with his parents John and Mary on Roosevelt, but searching them is no good either.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I just realized if I send this without looking in the archives Layne will probably have strong words for me and lo and behold;</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div><div>Record #<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span>674105</div><div>Case #<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span></div><div>Name<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span>Gossman, Howard, Francis & O"Doherty, Opal Marie</div><div>Date<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span>10/19/1958</div><div>Record Type<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span>Marriage</div><div>County<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span>Jefferson</div><div>Source<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span>County</div></div><div><br></div>That adds to the confusion since the index and his obit both list Deschutes county??</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Usually I can pin down at least a date of birth though not always correct by searching public records, but the only Opal Gossman lving with a Howard that I find is born in 1978 which would make it just about as hard for her to be the one married in 1958 as it would be for the one dead in 1951.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">The daughter of Mildred and Virgil is born about 1929 in Nebraska.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">So essentially what I am asking is if anyone can find who the <span>Opel Marie Schrautemier or whatever who died <span>29 Jan 1951 Deschutes, Oregon. If she is the daughter of Mildred and Virgil I am really lost.</span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span><br></span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span>Leslie Chapman</span></span></div></div></div><div id="ydp3f7aeb67yahoo_quoted_0595832126" class="ydp3f7aeb67yahoo_quoted"><div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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