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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Les,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I had to go into the stacks to check for something else so I took a quick peek at the Deschutes County death certificate for January 29<sup>th</sup> 1951. The
certificate is for a two month old child of Opal and her first husband, Charles Henry O’Doherty. Hope this resolves some of the confusion on this family.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Marriage returns for both these marriages if they occurred in Oregon are available at the Archives. Scanned images of these records have recently been added
to Ancestry if you have a subscription. There should be a Divorce return for the O’Doherty’s in our holdings as well. Unfortunately these two records series are not indexed on our online index. The record you did find for the marriage in Jefferson County
is for the County Clerk’s records that came to us from the County in the past few years.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Layne Sawyer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">“List Mom”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Oregon State Archives<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> or-roots [mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Leslie Chapman via or-roots<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 16, 2020 11:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> or-roots mail list <or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [or-roots] Back to Oregon from an unlikely source<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Trying to pin down a birth date for my Daughter-in-law's maternal Aunt Connie and I have a bit of a conundrum;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Father; </span>Howard Francis Gossman I have all the info I need on him, birth death date of funeral and marraige to;<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mother; (presumably) Opal Marie Schrautemier<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">19 October 1958 Bend, Deschutes Co., Oregon; In the marriage index she is Opal O'doherty<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">the marriage is listed without the Marie in his obituary and here is where it get interesting; I find Opal M. a waitress at Superior Cafe in bend in the 1946 phone book,
and living with the widow Mildred (Mrs Virgil H) and sister Betty who is a phone operator at Miller Ave.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">The problem is I find an online genealogy for this Opal listing her as deceased in 1951 even though it also has her marriage to Howard.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">The family is very elusive in official records in Minnesota where they move in 1959 and I find no record of Opal in any of my sources marrying an Odoherty in Oregon, or elsewhere,
I do find this;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">The Bend Bulletin from Bend, Oregon on December 10, 1957 ...www.newspapers.com › newspage<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">.-01.307-t-IO-C SUMMONS r IN- THE CIRCUIT COUTT OF THE STATE OF OREGON FOR THE COUNTY OF DESCHUTES OPAL ODOHERTY, Plaintiff, vs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">but I don't have access to the original to find his name. There is a Harry living with his parents John and Mary on Roosevelt, but searching them is no good either.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I just realized if I send this without looking in the archives Layne will probably have strong words for me and lo and behold;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Name Gossman, Howard, Francis & O"Doherty, Opal Marie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Date 10/19/1958<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">County Jefferson<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">That adds to the confusion since the index and his obit both list Deschutes county??<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Usually I can pin down at least a date of birth though not always correct by searching public records, but the only Opal Gossman lving with a Howard that I find is born in
1978 which would make it just about as hard for her to be the one married in 1958 as it would be for the one dead in 1951.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">The daughter of Mildred and Virgil is born about 1929 in Nebraska.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">So essentially what I am asking is if anyone can find who the Opel Marie Schrautemier or whatever who died 29 Jan 1951 Deschutes, Oregon. If she is the daughter of Mildred
and Virgil I am really lost.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Leslie Chapman<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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