[Libs-Or] Orbis Cascade Alliance communication with EBSCO and Ex Libris about data sharing

Mon Jun 9 09:15:57 PDT 2014

Max is a good person and not a troll. I usually enjoy his postings on
Facebook.  I think that in this case he may not have done the research he
should have done before posting.

  I did notice only one woman as part of the Ex Libris management team,
which never thrills me but is not unusual.   I think it doesn't hurt to
look at the diversity of the groups with which we work. Maybe this message
can just serve as a general reminder that taking a look at the diversity of
a company is a good thing to do.
On Jun 9, 2014 8:49 AM, "Chandra vanEijnsbergen" <chandrav at dpls.lib.or.us>
wrote:

> Who IS This Max person? Does anyone know him or her? What institution does
> he/she work for? My thought is we have a troll in our midst. My suggestion
> would be to remove this person from the list. If their institution would
> like them on it again, they can let us know and we can let them know why
> they were removed. Max's argument, as we can all see, is ludicrous (really,
> libraries are all run by white supremacists??) and it doesn't even hold
> together. Let's not waste any more time on trolls.
>
> Chandra vanEijnsbergen
> Community Librarian
> East Bend Public Library
> Deschutes Public Library System
> 541.330.3764
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> Shultz, Cedate [cshultz at cci.edu]
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 8:13 AM
> To: Sheryl Eldridge; 'Max Macias'; Paul Addis
> Cc: Libs-Or; WLA Washington Library Assn
> Subject: Re: [Libs-Or] Orbis Cascade Alliance communication with EBSCO and
> Ex Libris about data sharing
>
> The company headquarters is in Jerusalem
>
> http://learn.exlibrisgroup.com/mod/resource/view.php?id=267
>
> Perhaps it would be more useful to direct your concerns about diversity to
> Orbis Cascade, rather than generalizing an Israeli run company and an
> entire industry as white supremacists.
>
> You are, after all, a part of that industry as well……
>
> Cedate Shultz, MLIS, MEd
> Everest College Portland Library
> 600 SW 10th Avenue, #400
> Portland, Oregon 97205
> cshultz at cci.edu<mailto:cshultz at cci.edu>
> (503)221-2648
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> From: Libs-Or [mailto:libs-or-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On
> Behalf Of Sheryl Eldridge
> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 11:49 AM
> To: 'Max Macias'; Paul Addis
> Cc: Libs-Or; WLA Washington Library Assn
> Subject: Re: [Libs-Or] Orbis Cascade Alliance communication with EBSCO and
> Ex Libris about data sharing
>
> I believe the company is in Israel.
>
> Sheryl Eldridge, Supervising Librarian
> Newport Public Library<http://www.newportlibrary.org/>
> 35 NW Nye St.
> Newport, OR 97365
> 541.265.2153
>
>
>
> From: Libs-Or [mailto:libs-or-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On
> Behalf Of Max Macias
> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 10:21 AM
> To: Paul Addis
> Cc: Libs-Or; WLA Washington Library Assn
> Subject: Re: [Libs-Or] Orbis Cascade Alliance communication with EBSCO and
> Ex Libris about data sharing
>
> Did you not see the page?
>
> I didn't see any Asian, Latinos, or Blacks in their leadership.
>
> Please correct me if I am mistaken.
>
>
> Homogeneous systems are defunct.
>
>
> I'm saying that for a company who does business in the US, this
> organization's leadership seems AWFULLY homogeneous.
>
> Incidentally, from my perspective, those hash tags can cover the entire
> library industry.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Paul Addis <paddis at cclsd.org<mailto:
> paddis at cclsd.org>> wrote:
> Hello Max,
>
> Could you please be more specific with your claim? Seems like a serious
> accusation given the hash tags (?) you have included here.
>
> Maybe, I missed part of the conversation?
>
> Thanks for any clarification you might provide,
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 06/06/2014 12:47 pm, Max Macias wrote:
> The leadership/management team at Ex Libris seems to not have diversity:
> http://www.exlibrisgroup.com/category/ManagementTeam [5]
>
>
> #racist #libraries #diversity #culture #business #Oregon
> #BlackandBrown #WhiteSupremacist #OrbisCascade
>
> I don't like companies who are not ethnically diverse and I think
> Oregon Tax Payer money should only go to business partners who are
> ethnically diverse.
>
> Max Macias
>
> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:55 AM, John F. Helmer <jhelmer at orbiscascade.org
> <mailto:jhelmer at orbiscascade.org>> wrote:
> Northwest colleagues,
>
> You may be aware that the Alliance has been encouraging EBSCO and Ex
> Libris to reach a data sharing agreement that allows EBSCO content to be
> fully represented in Primo.  Although this particular conversation involves
> these two vendors, it is part of a broader principal.  We continue to hold
> that libraries must be able to make independent decisions about content and
> discovery.  All of the content our members purchase must be fully available
> via our chosen discovery system.
>
> As you will recall, in April EBSCO announced a new metadata sharing
> policy.  Since that time we have been analyzing this proposal and have
> engaged with both vendors. Now the Alliance Board has formally responded.
> In brief the Board's letter to EBSCO and Ex Libris says that we celebrate
> this step in the right direction but that it is not enough.  The letter
> asks for a quick implementation timeline and a roadmap for more.
> See the latest letter and entire dialog at
> https://www.orbiscascade.org/ebsco-ex-libris/ [1]
>
>
> Best wishes.
>
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