[Libs-Or] Orbis Cascade Alliance communication with EBSCO and Ex Libris about data sharing

Mon Jun 9 09:37:20 PDT 2014

Calling the entire library profession white supremacists is really not a
very useful way of engaging in a conversation about diversity. 

*Jane Salisbury*
Supervisor, Library Outreach Services
Multnomah County Library
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Portland, OR 97212

Phone: 503.988.4081  Website: www.multcolib.org

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On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Diedre Conkling <diedre08 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Max is a good person and not a troll. I usually enjoy his postings on
> Facebook.  I think that in this case he may not have done the research he
> should have done before posting.
>
>   I did notice only one woman as part of the Ex Libris management team,
> which never thrills me but is not unusual.   I think it doesn't hurt to
> look at the diversity of the groups with which we work. Maybe this message
> can just serve as a general reminder that taking a look at the diversity of
> a company is a good thing to do.
>  On Jun 9, 2014 8:49 AM, "Chandra vanEijnsbergen" <chandrav at dpls.lib.or.us>
> wrote:
>
>> Who IS This Max person? Does anyone know him or her? What institution
>> does he/she work for? My thought is we have a troll in our midst. My
>> suggestion would be to remove this person from the list. If their
>> institution would like them on it again, they can let us know and we can
>> let them know why they were removed. Max's argument, as we can all see, is
>> ludicrous (really, libraries are all run by white supremacists??) and it
>> doesn't even hold together. Let's not waste any more time on trolls.
>>
>> Chandra vanEijnsbergen
>> Community Librarian
>> East Bend Public Library
>> Deschutes Public Library System
>> 541.330.3764
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Libs-Or [libs-or-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] on behalf of
>> Shultz, Cedate [cshultz at cci.edu]
>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 8:13 AM
>> To: Sheryl Eldridge; 'Max Macias'; Paul Addis
>> Cc: Libs-Or; WLA Washington Library Assn
>> Subject: Re: [Libs-Or] Orbis Cascade Alliance communication with EBSCO
>> and Ex Libris about data sharing
>>
>> The company headquarters is in Jerusalem
>>
>> http://learn.exlibrisgroup.com/mod/resource/view.php?id=267
>>
>> Perhaps it would be more useful to direct your concerns about diversity
>> to Orbis Cascade, rather than generalizing an Israeli run company and an
>> entire industry as white supremacists.
>>
>> You are, after all, a part of that industry as well……
>>
>> Cedate Shultz, MLIS, MEd
>> Everest College Portland Library
>> 600 SW 10th Avenue, #400
>> Portland, Oregon 97205
>> cshultz at cci.edu<mailto:cshultz at cci.edu>
>> (503)221-2648
>>
>>
>> From: Libs-Or [mailto:libs-or-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On
>> Behalf Of Sheryl Eldridge
>> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 11:49 AM
>> To: 'Max Macias'; Paul Addis
>> Cc: Libs-Or; WLA Washington Library Assn
>> Subject: Re: [Libs-Or] Orbis Cascade Alliance communication with EBSCO
>> and Ex Libris about data sharing
>>
>> I believe the company is in Israel.
>>
>> Sheryl Eldridge, Supervising Librarian
>> Newport Public Library<http://www.newportlibrary.org/>
>> 35 NW Nye St.
>> Newport, OR 97365
>> 541.265.2153
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Libs-Or [mailto:libs-or-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On
>> Behalf Of Max Macias
>> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 10:21 AM
>> To: Paul Addis
>> Cc: Libs-Or; WLA Washington Library Assn
>> Subject: Re: [Libs-Or] Orbis Cascade Alliance communication with EBSCO
>> and Ex Libris about data sharing
>>
>> Did you not see the page?
>>
>> I didn't see any Asian, Latinos, or Blacks in their leadership.
>>
>> Please correct me if I am mistaken.
>>
>>
>> Homogeneous systems are defunct.
>>
>>
>> I'm saying that for a company who does business in the US, this
>> organization's leadership seems AWFULLY homogeneous.
>>
>> Incidentally, from my perspective, those hash tags can cover the entire
>> library industry.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Paul Addis <paddis at cclsd.org<mailto:
>> paddis at cclsd.org>> wrote:
>> Hello Max,
>>
>> Could you please be more specific with your claim? Seems like a serious
>> accusation given the hash tags (?) you have included here.
>>
>> Maybe, I missed part of the conversation?
>>
>> Thanks for any clarification you might provide,
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> On 06/06/2014 12:47 pm, Max Macias wrote:
>> The leadership/management team at Ex Libris seems to not have diversity:
>> http://www.exlibrisgroup.com/category/ManagementTeam [5]
>>
>>
>> #racist #libraries #diversity #culture #business #Oregon
>> #BlackandBrown #WhiteSupremacist #OrbisCascade
>>
>> I don't like companies who are not ethnically diverse and I think
>> Oregon Tax Payer money should only go to business partners who are
>> ethnically diverse.
>>
>> Max Macias
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:55 AM, John F. Helmer <jhelmer at orbiscascade.org
>> <mailto:jhelmer at orbiscascade.org>> wrote:
>> Northwest colleagues,
>>
>> You may be aware that the Alliance has been encouraging EBSCO and Ex
>> Libris to reach a data sharing agreement that allows EBSCO content to be
>> fully represented in Primo.  Although this particular conversation involves
>> these two vendors, it is part of a broader principal.  We continue to hold
>> that libraries must be able to make independent decisions about content and
>> discovery.  All of the content our members purchase must be fully available
>> via our chosen discovery system.
>>
>> As you will recall, in April EBSCO announced a new metadata sharing
>> policy.  Since that time we have been analyzing this proposal and have
>> engaged with both vendors. Now the Alliance Board has formally responded.
>> In brief the Board's letter to EBSCO and Ex Libris says that we celebrate
>> this step in the right direction but that it is not enough.  The letter
>> asks for a quick implementation timeline and a roadmap for more.
>> See the latest letter and entire dialog at
>> https://www.orbiscascade.org/ebsco-ex-libris/ [1]
>>
>>
>> Best wishes.
>>
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>>
>> John F. Helmer
>> Executive Director
>> Orbis Cascade Alliance
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