[OYAN] Chicklit vs. ?
Dawn Prochovnic
dawnp at smalltalklearning.com
Sat Aug 9 12:36:25 PDT 2014
What about enticing your teens with a "Name This Section" contest? Everyone that makes a suggestion gets their name put into a drawing, and someone wins a copy of a book from that category. The more ideas offered, the more times you are entered into the contest. Suggestions could be posted on a wall in the teen area, and teens could vote on their favorites.
I posed your question (and some of the responses) to my 15 year old daughter, and she was quite engaged in the brainstorming process ("Friendship and RomCom," "Sweet and Sassy," "Spicy and Sassy" were some of her favorites). The added benefit of holding a "naming contest" is that it would put that section of books on the radar for some of the kids. Dawn
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> 3. Re: Chicklit vs. ? (Lisa Elliott)
> 4. Re: Chicklit vs. ? (Danielle Jones)
> 5. Re: Chicklit vs. ? (Abbie Anderson)
> 6. Re: Chicklit vs. ? (tnelson at driftwoodlib.org)
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> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 12:59:28 -0700
> From: Ruth Allen <rutha at multcolib.org>
> To: Stacy Johns <s.johns at newportlibrary.org>
> Cc: "oyan at listsmart.osl.state.or.us" <oyan at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
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> Hi Stacy. I've heard the term "Lad Lit" used for the male equivalent of
> "Chick Lit". Maybe you could have a label "Chick Lit and Lad Lit"? Just a
> thought.
>
> Ruth
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Stacy Johns <s.johns at newportlibrary.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All!
>>
>>
>>
>> I?m working on splitting my smallish (2000 item) YA section into genres,
>> and one of the genres is, in essence ?CHICK LIT.? (It?s light, it
>> focuses as much or more on friendship than romance, it can sometimes be a
>> little bit steamy, it?s often humorous.)
>>
>>
>>
>> I have mixed feeling about the term-- between ?it?s derogatory? and ?it
>> is what it is??plus there are boys who like them, and books with male main
>> characters, gay or straight.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts on alternative terminology for the signs? Or a defense of
>> the term ?Chick lit?? What do y?all think?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks much!
>>
>>
>>
>> Stacy Johns
>>
>> YA Collection Development
>>
>> Newport Library
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Ruth Allen
> Youth Librarian
> Central Library
> Multnomah County Library
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> From: GLASS Traci L <Traci.L.Glass at ci.eugene.or.us>
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> Subject: [OYAN] Graphic Rave 2014 - Voting Round Two!
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> Hi Everyone,
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> At the Summer OYAN meeting held in the beautiful Crook County Library (thanks for hosting us, Barratt!), we determined 9 of the 15 titles needed for this year's Graphic Rave. I'd like us to do a revote on the manga titles (none of them got enough votes to move them forward) and the superhero titles. We have 6 spots left, and we need 3 manga titles and 3 superhero titles as per the Graphic Rave criteria requirements. Manga - choose your 3 favorite titles - simple enough. Superheroes - choose 3, but please keep in mind equal gender representation (aka let's have at least 1 female superhero make the cut) and publisher equality. So, read, read, read! Since I'm a little late getting the survey out (story of my life), you'll have until September 8, 2014 to get your votes in. Here's the link to the survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/YJVJD8W
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> And, stay tuned...I'll debut the 2014 Graphic Rave list right here for all you OYANers on September 9th!
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> Thanks!
> Traci
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> Traci Glass
> Teen Services Librarian
> Eugene Public Library
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> From: Lisa Elliott <lisae at tigard-or.gov>
> To: Stacy Johns <s.johns at newportlibrary.org>,
> "'oyan at listsmart.osl.state.or.us'" <oyan at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
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> Hi Stacy! I agree that the term "Chick Lit" is limiting to the varied readers who enjoyed it, or would if they gave it a chance. Are you going to be labeling the books or just putting them into different sections? Maybe you can make a category up if you don't have to choose a specific sticker. How about "Friendship and Courting?"
>
> -L
>
> Lisa Elliott
> Young Adult Librarian
> Tigard Public Library
> lisae at tigard-or.gov<mailto:lisae at tigard-or.gov>
> 503-718-2654
>
> Weekly schedule:
> Mon-Tues 11:00 a.m.-8:30 p.m.
> Fri 9:30 a.m.-7:00 p.m.
> Sat 9:00 a.m.-6:30 p.m.
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> From: Stacy Johns [mailto:s.johns at newportlibrary.org]
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 10:19 AM
> To: 'oyan at listsmart.osl.state.or.us'
> Subject: [OYAN] Chicklit vs. ?
>
> Hi All!
>
> I'm working on splitting my smallish (2000 item) YA section into genres, and one of the genres is, in essence "CHICK LIT." (It's light, it focuses as much or more on friendship than romance, it can sometimes be a little bit steamy, it's often humorous.)
>
> I have mixed feeling about the term-- between "it's derogatory" and "it is what it is"-plus there are boys who like them, and books with male main characters, gay or straight.
>
> Any thoughts on alternative terminology for the signs? Or a defense of the term "Chick lit"? What do y'all think?
>
> Thanks much!
>
> Stacy Johns
> YA Collection Development
> Newport Library
>
>
>
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> From: Danielle Jones <jones.danielle.jones at gmail.com>
> To: Lisa Elliott <lisae at tigard-or.gov>
> Cc: "oyan at listsmart.osl.state.or.us" <oyan at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>,
> Stacy Johns <s.johns at newportlibrary.org>
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> I like Lisa's "Friendship and Courting" a lot - it really sums up the
> subject matter. If you want to be boring, but have some flexibility "From a
> Female POV" and "From a Male POV."
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Lisa Elliott <lisae at tigard-or.gov> wrote:
>
>> Hi Stacy! I agree that the term ?Chick Lit? is limiting to the varied
>> readers who enjoyed it, or would if they gave it a chance. Are you going to
>> be labeling the books or just putting them into different sections? Maybe
>> you can make a category up if you don?t have to choose a specific sticker.
>> How about ?Friendship and Courting??
>>
>>
>>
>> -L
>>
>>
>>
>> Lisa Elliott
>>
>> Young Adult Librarian
>>
>> Tigard Public Library
>>
>> lisae at tigard-or.gov
>>
>> 503-718-2654
>>
>>
>>
>> Weekly schedule:
>>
>> Mon-Tues 11:00 a.m.-8:30 p.m.
>>
>> Fri 9:30 a.m.-7:00 p.m.
>>
>> Sat 9:00 a.m.-6:30 p.m.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Stacy Johns [mailto:s.johns at newportlibrary.org]
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 08, 2014 10:19 AM
>> *To:* 'oyan at listsmart.osl.state.or.us'
>> *Subject:* [OYAN] Chicklit vs. ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All!
>>
>>
>>
>> I?m working on splitting my smallish (2000 item) YA section into genres,
>> and one of the genres is, in essence ?CHICK LIT.? (It?s light, it
>> focuses as much or more on friendship than romance, it can sometimes be a
>> little bit steamy, it?s often humorous.)
>>
>>
>>
>> I have mixed feeling about the term-- between ?it?s derogatory? and ?it
>> is what it is??plus there are boys who like them, and books with male main
>> characters, gay or straight.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts on alternative terminology for the signs? Or a defense of
>> the term ?Chick lit?? What do y?all think?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks much!
>>
>>
>>
>> Stacy Johns
>>
>> YA Collection Development
>>
>> Newport Library
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> From: Abbie Anderson <aanderson at cclsd.org>
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> "Friendship and Courting" is a great descriptor. Do you need something
> snappier, and/or easier to fit on a label? "Friends and Feelings" is
> probably too literal and too obvious.
>
> How about "Boy/Girl/Friends"? That could cover "me and my friends and
> our girlfriends and boyfriends" for all the gender variants and
> relationship variants. Maybe? Or the perhaps already passe "BFs, GFs, BFFs".
>
> Abbie
>
> On 08/08/2014 07:16 PM, Danielle Jones wrote:
>> I like Lisa's "Friendship and Courting" a lot - it really sums up the
>> subject matter. If you want to be boring, but have some flexibility
>> "From a Female POV" and "From a Male POV."
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Lisa Elliott <lisae at tigard-or.gov
>> <mailto:lisae at tigard-or.gov>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Stacy! I agree that the term ?Chick Lit? is limiting to the
>> varied readers who enjoyed it, or would if they gave it a chance.
>> Are you going to be labeling the books or just putting them into
>> different sections? Maybe you can make a category up if you don?t
>> have to choose a specific sticker. How about ?Friendship and
>> Courting??
>>
>> -L
>>
>> Lisa Elliott
>>
>> Young Adult Librarian
>>
>> Tigard Public Library
>>
>> lisae at tigard-or.gov <mailto:lisae at tigard-or.gov>
>>
>> 503-718-2654 <tel:503-718-2654>
>>
>> Weekly schedule:
>>
>> Mon-Tues 11:00 a.m.-8:30 p.m.
>>
>> Fri 9:30 a.m.-7:00 p.m.
>>
>> Sat 9:00 a.m.-6:30 p.m.
>>
>> *From:*Stacy Johns [mailto:s.johns at newportlibrary.org
>> <mailto:s.johns at newportlibrary.org>]
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 08, 2014 10:19 AM
>> *To:* 'oyan at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>> <mailto:oyan at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>'
>> *Subject:* [OYAN] Chicklit vs. ?
>>
>> Hi All!
>>
>> I?m working on splitting my smallish (2000 item) YA section into
>> genres, and one of the genres is, in essence ?CHICK LIT.? (It?s
>> light, it focuses as much or more on friendship than romance, it
>> can sometimes be a little bit steamy, it?s often humorous.)
>>
>> I have mixed feeling about the term-- between ?it?s derogatory?
>> and ?it is what it is??plus there are boys who like them, and
>> books with male main characters, gay or straight.
>>
>> Any thoughts on alternative terminology for the signs? Or a
>> defense of the term ?Chick lit?? What do y?all think?
>>
>> Thanks much!
>>
>> Stacy Johns
>>
>> YA Collection Development
>>
>> Newport Library
>>
>>
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>> YALSA's 2015 Alex Award Administrative Assistant
>> Oregon Library Association Children's Services Division CSLP Chair
>> Oregon Young Adult Network Secretary
>> work email daniellej at multco.us <mailto:daniellej at multco.us>
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> From: tnelson at driftwoodlib.org
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> oyan at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
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>> or "light lit" or "lighter lit"
> T Nelson
>>
>>
>> ---- Original Message ----
>> From: lisae at tigard-or.gov
>> To: s.johns at newportlibrary.org, oyan at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>> Subject: Re: [OYAN] Chicklit vs. ?
>> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 01:57:26 +0000
>>
>>> Hi Stacy! I agree that the term "Chick Lit" is limiting to the
>> varied readers who enjoyed it, or would if they gave it a chance. Are
>> you going to be labeling the books or just putting them into
>> different sections? Maybe you can make a category up if you don't
>> have to choose a specific sticker. How about "Friendship and
>> Courting?"
>>>
>>> -L
>>>
>>> Lisa Elliott
>>> Young Adult Librarian
>>> Tigard Public Library
>>> lisae at tigard-or.gov<mailto:lisae at tigard-or.gov>
>>> 503-718-2654
>>>
>>> Weekly schedule:
>>> Mon-Tues 11:00 a.m.-8:30 p.m.
>>> Fri 9:30 a.m.-7:00 p.m.
>>> Sat 9:00 a.m.-6:30 p.m.
>>>
>>> From: Stacy Johns [mailto:s.johns at newportlibrary.org]
>>> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 10:19 AM
>>> To: 'oyan at listsmart.osl.state.or.us'
>>> Subject: [OYAN] Chicklit vs. ?
>>>
>>> Hi All!
>>>
>>> I'm working on splitting my smallish (2000 item) YA section into
>> genres, and one of the genres is, in essence "CHICK LIT." (It's
>> light, it focuses as much or more on friendship than romance, it can
>> sometimes be a little bit steamy, it's often humorous.)
>>>
>>> I have mixed feeling about the term-- between "it's derogatory" and
>> "it is what it is"-plus there are boys who like them, and books with
>> male main characters, gay or straight.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on alternative terminology for the signs? Or a defense
>> of the term "Chick lit"? What do y'all think?
>>>
>>> Thanks much!
>>>
>>> Stacy Johns
>>> YA Collection Development
>>> Newport Library
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> DISCLAIMER: E-mails sent or received by City of Tigard employees are
>> subject to public record laws. If requested, e-mail may be disclosed
>> to another party unless exempt from disclosure under Oregon Public
>> Records Law. E-mails are retained by the City of Tigard in compliance
>> with the Oregon Administrative Rules "City General Records Retention
>> Schedule."
>>>
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