[or-roots] SHAMEon you VIOLA !

[Connie Guardino]

Pat, if this goes on much longer, I too will have to unsubscribe. I hate
the thought of this because I consider many of you to be kindred hearts
and friends. I think we have some real dogs on this list--some real
lunatics. I recently posted my Dobbie material, in hopes of getting
folks back on the subject of genealogy. That didn't work, and I am
terribly disappointed. It was like pulling teeth to garnish what I did
get, and I know there are those of you in Southern Oregon who have
something to offer on this subject. Here is what I believe: Kevin and
Shirlee are a sham. Most likely, kids having fun and pranking their
elders. We blindly took it seriously. There is, to date, no obit to
prove there was a Kevin in Bend and he died mowing the lawn. Come
Friday, if there is no obit to prove his reality, what then will folks
on this list think? How about "foolish" for openers?

Kith-n-Kin wrote:

>  You know, I was going to be quiet about this, but enough is enough,
> Nancy. And, no more private e-mails to you.(1) I wrote to Kevin twice
> (personally) and nicely the first time, by the way, to tell him what
> the problem was and that *he* would have to follow the instructions to
> get off the list. The result of that was an e-mail to my e-ddress,
> (not to the list), with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and a copy of
> someone else's e-mail in the body. He never responded to me
> personally. I suggest that several people got that type of response,
> but others got some real trash talk from him.(2) After we got the well
> crafted death notice, and Nancy wrote the vitriol to the list, I wrote
> her and told her what *I* had done, and she sent back an unbelievably
> rude reply, just because I asked her if she (the only one with a good
> relationship with Kevin) had also tried to help him. She also copied
> me a perfectly rational e-mail he had sent her. None of the
> dis-jointed messages some got from him.(3) Several of us have tried to
> placate the rest, with insults from Nancy at every turn.(4) Now,
> Nancy, if you are going to "shame" Viola, ("I never said, that anyone
> of you killed Kevin")  please read your reply to someone earlier this
> week:
> "It's too bad, you didn't think of this first to write to tell people
> about, loving kindness, while Kevin was with us!
> Now it's too late to be kind to him. {Only to Shirlee}  Some of the
> or-roots members really stressed him out. He was trying very hard to
> unsubscribe, but some.. just made fun of him... some were cruel and
> rude. He told me that himself. They just wouldn't back off and let him
> unsubscribe,  he was stressed out and Stress can kill.."
>
> Now, admittedly, you didn't accuse anyone of taking out a gun, but I'm
> sorry, where I come from, the above *is* an accusation.
> "They wouldn't back off and let him unsubscribe. . " excuse me, but
> not only did some of us try to help, frankly there is nothing any of
> us could do, including you, apparently, to either help or hinder his
> getting off the list by "backing off".
> Now, I'm one who thinks that this was an unfortunate turn of events,
> and since the behavior was apparently uncharacteristic (but how would
> we know that?), we can put it down to his medical condition.
> Assuming that none of the rest of us have a similar medical condition,
> perhaps we, including you, Nancy, can just close this out?
> Pat (in Tucson)
> P.S. Please note the *lack* of earlier messages in this thread. *That*
> my dears, is protocol for e-mails to lists. You don't copy and copy
> and copy, you just excerpt the part that is germane to the subject.
> So, yes, Nancy, you can expect not to have all the message, and the
> message before, and the message before that. . .  (I think there were
> five messages in this before Nancy reminded me and I cut them out.)
> P
>
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