[or-roots] Political correctness

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Leslie:  hurahh for you!  You are absolutly right!!
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Bob Goodman 
USAF Retired 
University Place, Washington

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> Please people, this IS a genealogy forum, let us concede that right or wrong 
> some folks have an aversion to certain terms and drop their use in public, 
> at least within reason. 
> 
> I am sure that Mr. Barnes was relating this anecdote as he remembered it 
> from a time when it would have been politically correct to say it in that 
> fashion. 
> 
> Because many of us Oregonians have not been as exposed to non-white culture 
> as others we tend to not be as aware that it is not acceptable in some 
> quarters to tell jokes about people stealing more chain than they can swim 
> with as maybe we should be. 
> 
> But folks, lets not use up our bandwidth and GENEALOGY storage space with a 
> lot of pointless (because chances you are going to change anyones minds are 
> slim and none) arguements and name calling on the subject and get on with 
> the genealogy. 
> 
> Leslie (lilly white honky) Chapman 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us 
> [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Dan M 
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 5:31 PM 
> To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us 
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] mega info 
> 
> 
> From the Native American aspect from several Native groups including 
> American Indian Movement support group and several other NA people 
> * will * tell you that this word should not be used, several places on 
> websites and book writers have been ask to revise the use of the word 
> because it is a fact NA people frown on this word and it means as previously 
> suggested. 
> I can bring lots of proof on this because I run over 30 NA groups. 
> I also took it to mean as Walt said until I was shown by some elders. 
> Dan M 
> Genealogy Community 
> surnames and NA connections 
> www.wvi.com/~wb 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: DAVIESW739 at aol.com 
> To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us 
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:21 PM 
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] mega info 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 2/10/2005 2:25:44 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
> CKlooster at aol.com writes: 
> Please. Such terms applied to Native American people are extremely 
> disrespectful. It hurts me even to read the words. The term "Squaw" is 
> itself derived from an obscenity. These are people that you are presumably 
> speaking of; father, mother, and child. They had 
> names...lineages...ancestors and (probably) descendants. 
> 
> Carla 
> Sorry but you are either miss informed or just a PC person who doesn't care 
> about where a word came from just that its not your liking so we should all 
> not use it. 
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> "It is as certain as any historical fact can be that the word squaw that the 
> English settlers in Massachusetts used for 'Indian woman' in the early 1600s 
> was adopted by them from the word squa that their Massachusett-speaking 
> neighbors used in their own language to mean 'female, younger woman,' 
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> 
> OK now jump all over me for putting the truth back in the English language. 
> 
> Walt Davies 
> Cooper Hollow Farm 
> Monmouth, OR 97361 
> 503 623-0460 
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