[or-roots] Name coincidences

Wed Jun 10 17:02:16 PDT 2009

I don't know whether this will help any with the Howell, Marrs connections  
but James E Howell and Sarah Shadwell's daughter Adoline who married 
Lafayette F  Marrs settled in the Estacada area and their descendants are still 
there.

Joanne

In a message dated 6/10/2009 11:50:25 A.M. Hawaiian Standard Time,  
dharguess at coastline.edu writes:

This has  really gotten me to thinking about the Carrol(l) family that I
haven't  really done much research on.  Hettie Carroll married James
Ellison  Howell back in either Indiana or Illinois (I can't remember).
They had two  sons, Andrew Howell and Stanford Howell.  Hettie died soon
after  Stanford was born and James remarried a woman named Sarah (don't
know her  last name).  I don't know if they got married in Illinois or if
he met  and married her in Arkansas.  I doubt he would take two infant
sons to  Arkansas by himself though.  In Arkansas they were close to the
Marrs  family and some of the Howell children married Marrs children.
They all  went to Oregon after James died.  Andrew and Stanford had  gone
first.  Sarah Howell took all of her remaining children to  Oregon.

Evidently the Carrol(l) name was important to the family  because Sarah
and James named one of their sons Carrol and he named one of  his sons
Carrol.  I had never thought to look for Carrols in Oregon,  only in
Illinois or Indiana (I can't remember).  But then when James  and Sarah
Howell's daughter Sarah married John Llewelen and I found that  his
father's name was Elison Llewelen and that they were from the  same
Illinois or Indiana I started thinking these people must have either  all
been part of the same religion or their ancestors had come to  America
together and they were like a big clan that stayed together and  moved
together.  So, now I wonder if the Carrols were part of the  group too.

Such a fascinating puzzle.

Dale;

I thought it  kinda that way since I don't recall noticing Carrol(l) as a
particularly  common name and since the population of Oregon in 1850
wasn't
so huge as  to generate every imaginable surname by accident. Some of
them do
seem  awfully common though. We had a friend her in Reedsport that was a
Foster  descendant and she asked me to look into her ancestry, but at the
time I  was pretty green and didn't get far, but in browsing 1850
Clackamas
Co  to find a Dunn to check out for Paul Christian I stumbled  across
about
five families of Fosters. Knowing they probably are no kin  of my Foster
ancestors just somehow makes that a little  discouraging.

Les C

-----Original Message-----
From:  or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On  Behalf Of
Harguess,
Dale
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:46  AM
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Subject: Re: [or-roots] Carrol /  Lewelling

Interesting......

-----Original  Message-----
From:  or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]  On Behalf Of Leslie
Chapman
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 7:10 PM
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Subject: [or-roots] Carrol /  Lewelling

Dale;

in 1850  >  OREGON    >  CLACKAMAS  >  MILWAUKIE
Series: M432  Roll:  742  Page: 16

there is a William Carrol age 32 Carpenter with  $1000 real esteate b.
Ohio
and Samuel age 26 Farmer, $1500 also  OH.

on the page before there are a whole bunch of Lewellings; Henderson  42
gardener $10,000 real estate b NC  Wife Elizabeth age 33 and a  whole
bunch
of Kids, I don't remember who was talking about them a few  days ago, but
thought I would throw that in here.

Les  C

-----Original Message-----
From:  Harguess, Dale
Sent:  Tuesday, June 09, 2009 3:00 PM

Interesting.  I have only begun to  do research on the Carroll family and
it isn't easy because anything that I  might find would be before the
1850 census.  My great great  grandfather's mother was a Hettie Carroll,
I don't know if that was a  nickname for Henrietta or Harriet but I
assume it was a nickname.  She  was married and died in Illinois.  Her
son ended up in Hardman Oregon  and in fact is buried  there.
Dale

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