[or-roots] Plennert/Plennart/Plannert
Denise Sproed
denisesproed at onlinenw.com
Sun Mar 7 18:19:35 PST 2010
Thanks Sharon, Sue & Mimi,
The delayed birth record is the most exciting lead of all. My direct ancestor emigrated to Oregon and said she was going to join Theresa Plennert. I have searched a long time to figure out who that was! Perhaps she is the Mary Teresa?
I do have one of the death certificates but didn't realize the others were spelled differently until I saw the tombstones. I shall look forward to my next visit to the Archives!
Thank you each for the leads you shared - Frances Plennert Ackerman was the informant on Adam Plennert's death certificate so I'll guess she may be his daughter. A birth record should confirm that.
Denise
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From: Sharon Ryan
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Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Wheatland Ferry & Catholic Record searches
Denise:
The Munnick Church Records do not have anyone by that surname. They would have had to be baptized, married or died in the time frame of the Munnick books and they did not go past 1912 in St. Louis. I'm working on the more current years and I checked the St. Paul records and couldn't find that surname there and I've not finished the St. Louis, Gervais or Brooks past what Harriet completed as yet. I do show an Adam Plennert with a death date of 6 Jan 1930 in the City of Portland Certificate # 69. There is a delayed birth record at the Oregon State Archives site for Frances Plennert Ackerman and Mary Teresa Plennert Derschmidt. If you haven't already checked the online state Archives site you can go to their site to do further research on the name at http://genealogy.state.or.us/
Good Luck
Sharon
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Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 7:04 AM
To: denisesproed at onlinenw.com; or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Wheatland Ferry & Catholic Record searches
Denise - there is an excellent set of books published on Catholic Church Records in the NW - it's a seven volume set and an index: Catholic Church Records of the Pacific Northwest by Harriet Munnick. The Oregon State Archives has a set of these books as I imagine a number of other libraries in the state do as well. Each book covers different churches. It's an excellent resource! And each is indexed and there is a cumulative index as well.
Book 3 covers St. Paul, St. Louis, Gervais and Brooks which would probably be the most use to you. Mimi Stang
In a message dated 3/6/2010 7:55:52 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, denisesproed at onlinenw.com writes:
I rode the Wheatland Ferry this evening on my return from visiting the Sacred Heart Cemetery in Gervais and the St. Louis Cemetery in St. Louis.
Has anyone done research amongst the Catholic Records of Sacred Heart or St. Louis? My ancestors emigrated from Pankota, Hungary (Germans) and I located a goodly group of them in the two cemeteries today. I took 68 photos and once I process the clues from the tombstones I'm wondering what resource next might provide some clues. Some of these German relatives seem to have avoided the census takers so I need to find some other records.
The most mysterious of the bunch are the Plennert/Plennart relatives. Anton Plennart (4 Jul 1876-27 Jan 1953), Jacob I Plennart (1902-1975), Ada Plenert (1852-1930) & Frances Plenert (1860-1915). Even tho the spellings are different I strongly suspect they are relatives to my direct ancestor, Eva Plennert.
Would especially enjoy sharing info with ANYONE researching ANY relatives from the Banat region (Arad County, Hungary) where Pankota & Ujpanat are cities my ancestors emigrated from. Quite a group of emigrants came to Oregon about 1902-1910. Many of them are inter-related.
Denise
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From: daviesw739
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Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
its called the Wheatland ferry but the ferry itself is named the Daniel Matheny V after grampa.
Walt
In a message dated 03/06/10 00:31:46 Pacific Standard Time, dsam52 at sampubco.com writes:
I've ridden the ferry and it was always Wheatland Ferry.
The only times the ferry was not operational was the excess rains
swollen the river beyond the banks.
David Samuelsen
Sue Steward wrote:
> Are you saying I haven't ridden across the river on the Wheatland Ferry?
>
> Sue
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> From: "Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net>
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>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jtenlen/ORBios/mcmatheny.txt
>>
>> We've used the Wheatland Ferry several times, I think it was previously
>> called Matheny Ferry.
>>
>> Sue
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dan M" <mygenrw2 at gmail.com>
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>> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
>>
>>
>> Matneny has a list on some server, I used to be on it, I used to be the
>> admin for the one on rootsweb, Dianna started some one line group for
>> them.
>> I know they are always showing up around Matney also, I think the name is
>> French and we found Matney there as DeMatenyee <sp> close to that off
>> hand.
>> I see Matheny properties close to Matney properties and some travels in
>> same areas, how ever there are more of the pioneer type people in those
>> old
>> days the Matheny seemed to be to more famously known over the Matney in
>> most
>> places eg Champoeg.
>> Matney like any other names has a lot of milestones but I noticed the
>> Matheny seem to be more well known over all eg Walt Davis's Aunts book
>> into
>> the setting sun. SO far we have not found any one who has recorded any
>> Matney/Mattingly pioneer mentions too much. There is a great deal of
>> history
>> for folks in the era and each name I read about seems to have its own
>> history, very much fun reading about all names of the times, I always
>> wonder
>> how it really was all these people on the wagon tr ain 1843 so to speak.
>> Dan M
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net>
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>> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:11 AM
>> Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
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>>
>> In this Hiram Simkins business, I find two in Oregon before 1900 -- one
>> in the Wheatland area of Yanhill & Polk Counties, with connections to
>> numerous of the well-known Champoeg area pioneers, and his uncle, Hiram
>> Simpkins, found in the 1880 census in "Jump off Joe" in Josephine
>> County, the census taker writing something that could be transcribed as
>> "Irian".
>>
>> Anyway, of the former, less related one, I found the Matheny name
>> popping up again, which, since it has been a topic on this list, I
>> thought might be of interest to some:
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