[or-roots] to ditto or not to ditto

Sun Apr 8 18:24:54 PDT 2012

follow what is spelled in the names, no matter what.

Towns, counties and states/countries must be spelled correctly as record 
elsewhere.  Like Koochching, not Coochching as on census, Canyon, not 
Canon as it is in Idaho. This is only requirement you have to know or 
check other sources for accurate spelling.

Northern Ireland, enter as it is.
Canada French, enter as it is, not French Canada like one indexer did in 
one batch (she reversed all of that but I arbitrated it to correct as 
recorded)

If Astoria and it listed Columbia, it is wrong, it has to be Astoria, 
Clatsop, Oregon. This is what is specifically instructed.

If it says St. Paul, enter St Paul. If it says Saint Paul, enter it 
Saint Paul.

Those surnames that are Scottish and Ireland, no space allowed - McXX 
and MacXX. Ditto for DeXX . Van and Von are allowed.

Given names, enter exact as it say, even it turn pink. Force it to 
accept that. Otherwise, the arbitrator will ding you.

David S.

On 4/8/2012 6:47 PM, CeCe Moore wrote:
> Thanks, Les! I am reading the box on the bottom right, but many times it doesn't address my questions. They sometimes highlight in red unusual last names. I look them up to make sure I am reading them and spelling then correctly, but it is still highlighted. One of the census takers misspelled a town and it was highlighted so I changed the spelling to make the red box go away. One said "Anajean" but stayed red until I changed it to Anna Jean (which was her actual name in other records). Should I just be ignoring the red if I know it is correct?
> Thanks for the advice!
> CeCe
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leslie Chapman<opera_70 at yahoo.com>
> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 00:37:33
> To:<or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] to ditto  or not to ditto
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> The R is for Rural, but the rules is what you see in that column is what you type as long as you spell it right, you should be reading the info in the box on the lower right side of your editing screen as you go along, all the normal designations, if the information is wrong ie one of my first pages the census taker of the respondent moved Astoria to Columbia county,  yo are still supposed to type it in as originally done, Note if it is highlighted in Red it may be that it sin't spelled right, but I have had a few that seemed to be for places that didn't exist, so far I have managed to find what I think most of the poorly spelled ones meant and don't remember getting dinged for anything questionable except not spelling out Saint in St Paul.
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> as near as I understand it typically what R means is the person lived in a Rural area in1935 and seems to be implying either that they lived locally bu rural, and moved into town or maybe that town moved to them. I think the latter would be same house though. It appears to me the distinction between same place and same house are a bit murky.
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> Les
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> --- On Sun, 4/8/12, CeCe Moore<cecemoore at hotmail.com>  wrote:
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> From: CeCe Moore<cecemoore at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] to ditto or not to ditto
> To: "or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us "<or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Date: Sunday, April 8, 2012, 5:18 PM
>
>
> What do the "R"s mean BTW?
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leslie Chapman<opera_70 at yahoo.com</mc/compose?to=opera_70 at yahoo.com>  >
> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 23:56:42
> To:<or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us</mc/compose?to=or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>  >
> Subject: [or-roots] to ditto  or not to ditto
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> That is just my point David, to me it is very clear the meaning of the looooooong dash is not ditto and I feel like it is confusing the process to repeat the line above, the record I am looking at now the line above was R, and there are four more R's directly above that, if he had meant an R, he would have entered one and since to enter data there is wrong it seem silly to me to say "all" dashes mean ditto. For some unknown reason this guy used a lot of space filling dashes on the page, at least that is how I would interpret the two dashes he put in column 24 and 25 under two lines of empty space, I am pretty sure ditto marks aren't necessary for empty space. I guess it really doesn't matter one way or the other since it is going to be obviously wrong to have someone residing somewhere 4 years before they were born so I will treat them as ditto marks if it will keep my score up.
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> As to the "7" CC mentioned, she might want to look at it real close, I had one of those and after some study realized it was meant to be a S for single.
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> Les
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> --- On Sun, 4/8/12, W David Samuelsen<dsam52 at sampubco.com</mc/compose?to=dsam52 at sampubco.com>  >  wrote:
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> From: W David Samuelsen<dsam52 at sampubco.com</mc/compose?to=dsam52 at sampubco.com>  >
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Another arbitration question
> To: "or-roots mail list"<or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us</mc/compose?to=or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>  >
> Date: Sunday, April 8, 2012, 1:53 PM
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> repeat what the above line says.
>
> "If ditto marks or other signs of repetition were written in this field,
> type the information from the previous record."  This would be very true
> if 5 years or older. I've seen some slipped past below 5 years old.
>
> David
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