[or-roots] Headstone Laural hill Eugene
Sue Steward
ssteward at ccountry.net
Sat Jan 21 20:49:38 PST 2012
I think you are right, Darlene. If Dan checks out the references you
gave him earlier:
(Also from Ancestry, from the National Archives: On August 4 (could be
21 -- hard to read), 1890, Henry Rogers filed for invalid's pension
(Application No. 932645, Certiricate 6 73293) in Minnesota. Service
was F. 44. Wis. Inf. On Sep 6, 1904 Elizabeth M Rogers filed for
widow's pension (Application No. 813103, Certificate No. 583574) in
Oregon.) he should be able to determine the actual date of death from
Elizabeth's pension application.
He can probably even find out from the National Archives who ordered the
headstone, would assume it was Elizabeth, or maybe it was just a result
of her notifying them of his death and they made the headstone. It
really shouldn't matter what company manufactured the headstone.
Veterans doesn't set the stone unless it is in a V.A. cemetery so
probably someone in the family arranged for setting the stone. Older
cemetery records being what they are, things were not always annotated
in the records like we might like but you just have to move on.
Sue
On 1/21/2012 7:52 PM, Darlene wrote:
> If we go back through these messages, there is one (can't find it
> right now) where Dan referred to a memorial on the Find A Grave web
> site. It has a photo of Henry's grave stone, the name William Henry
> "Henry" Rogers, gives his date and place of birth, death in 1904 in
> Springfield, Lane Co., OR. It identifies his wife, and four
> children. It also has a picture of a post card sent to Gertie Brabham
> in Eugene (one of the children of Henry and Elizabeth) from "Father
> and Mother". The individual who created the memorial also has
> memorials for two of Henry & Elizabeth's children, with photos of
> obituaries, Elizabeth's death certificate, and a post card that Gertie
> wrote to her mother. The email address of the person who created the
> memorial is available on the Find A Grave page, and it seems to me
> that if she has that much family information, she may have more to
> offer if Dan were to contact her. For anyone on this list who wants
> to take a look, the address for Henry's memorial is:
> http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=34106056
>
> Also, with the information from the National Archives regarding
> Henry's Civil War service, which includes his location of death,
> combined with his widow's application for a pension in September,
> 1904, the issue of when he died, and where he is buried should be
> resolved. Seems to me that the only thing still lacking is Dan's
> question as to what company manufactured Henry's gravestone.
>
>
> On 1/21/2012 5:42 PM, Sue Steward wrote:
>> That's true about the name but he spoke of seeing something in a book
>> in a store of a Henry Rogers died 1903 so thought possibly this might
>> be the one that was listed in the book.
>>
>> Sue
>>
>> 1/21/2012 4:34 PM, Linda Wiley wrote:
>>> This is getting interesting. I wonder, however---his legal name was
>>> William Henry Rogers and this one has a middle initial after
>>> Henry.I've been sending Dan some information off the list on finding
>>> records, etc., and he asked for contacts for the Sons of Union
>>> Veterans which I gave him.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* Sue Steward <ssteward at ccountry.net>
>>> *To:* or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2012 2:24 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [or-roots] Headstone Laural hill Eugene
>>>
>>>
>>> This is possibly the Henry Rogers you saw in the book but it
>>> appears he was buried in a V. A. Cemetery.
>>>
>>>
>>> Headstones Provided for Deceased Union Civil War Veterans, 1879-1903
>>>
>>> Name: Henry J Rogers
>>> State of Cemetery: California
>>> Date of Death: 9 Apr 1903
>>>
>>>
>>> U.S. Veterans Gravesites, ca.1775-2006
>>>
>>> Name: Henry F Rogers
>>> Death Date: 9 Apr 1903
>>> Cemetery: Los Angeles National Cemetery
>>> Cemetery Address: 950 South Sepulveda Boulevard Los Angeles, CA 90049
>>> Buried At: Section 8 Row F Site 13
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/21/2012 11:05 AM, Dan-M wrote:
>>>> I was at the book store before it became a feed store in Stayton,
>>>> there was a green book about 1 inch thick and 10x12 in size with
>>>> regular type print.
>>>> It was an old soldiers book, price 95. dollars, I saw in there,
>>>> Henry Rogers died in an old soldiers home in CA and was moved to
>>>> Oregon. This is what? About 10 or so years ago, before I could find
>>>> the money to get that book that store had closed and those books
>>>> were gone. I was wondering, just where if even that was my Henry
>>>> said 1903, was that old soldiers home? Might just have been a
>>>> residence providing these old people hospice or what and where and
>>>> who all those w words.
>>>> I was also wondering, is there a guy version of DUV?
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> *From:* Linda Wiley <mailto:oregontrail1851 at yahoo.com>
>>>> *To:* or-roots mail list
>>>> <mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 20, 2012 11:11 AM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [or-roots] Headstone Laural hill Eugene
>>>>
>>>> Dan, I belong to the daughters of Union Veterans of the Civil
>>>> War (DUV), Tent #2, South Willamette Valley. I emailed our
>>>> Tent President, Carolyn Hall, for some info and turns out she
>>>> knows you--you helped her with our webpage. I recognized our
>>>> DUV wreath from the picture on find-a-grave. She verified it
>>>> is CO F. Darleen provided good info in her post about the
>>>> government-provided memorial stones. Sons of Union Veterans
>>>> has an active project to seek out un-recognized CW vets--ones
>>>> that do not have a headstone. I think this national project
>>>> started in 1996. There might be info in his CW records about
>>>> the headstone. My great grandfather, a CW vet, died in 1916,
>>>> buried in Albany, and does not have a government marker--just
>>>> GAR on the stone provided by his family, so I couldn't check to
>>>> see if it was mentioned. Linda Wiley, Sublimity, OR
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Darlene <darlene at thecasteels.net>
>>>> <mailto:darlene at thecasteels.net>
>>>> *To:* or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>>>> <mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 20, 2012 9:15 AM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [or-roots] Headstone Laural hill Eugene
>>>>
>>>> Sue is correct. It is a Civil War military grave stone, and
>>>> reads CO. F, 44 WIS. INF
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what you have on Henry Rogers other than what is
>>>> posted on your web site, but here is what I have found:
>>>> From Ancestry.com --
>>>> Henry Rogers, resident of St Lawrence, Wisconsin enlisted in
>>>> the Union army on 15 Oct 1864. Rank at enlistment was
>>>> Corporal, state served Wisconsin. He enlisted in Company F,
>>>> Wisconsin 44th Infantry Regiment, was mustered out on 03 Jun
>>>> 1865, died in Lane County, OR. (Another record, not so
>>>> complete, says rank in & rank out were both private).
>>>>
>>>> The grave marker was (apparently) provided by the Federal
>>>> Government. It is the same as many in the Jacksonville
>>>> Cemetery that I photographed, and then researched the
>>>> individuals. There is a record on Ancestry that lists
>>>> headsones provided for deceased Union Civil War veterans,
>>>> including the company that made the marker, but it only
>>>> includes the years 1879-1903. Since your ancestor died
>>>> (according to the Find A Grave record) in 1904, he would have
>>>> missed the years covered by the Ancestry record. In your note
>>>> on your web site, you state that the 1905 Springfield census
>>>> lists Elizabeth as a widow, so death date of 1904 is probably
>>>> correct. The record posted on Ancestry is from the National
>>>> Archives, so you might be able to learn more information there.
>>>>
>>>> Also from Ancestry, from the National Archives: On August 4
>>>> (could be 21 -- hard to read), 1890, Henry Rogers filed for
>>>> invalid's pension (Application No. 932645, Certiricate 673293)
>>>> in Minnesota. Service was F. 44. Wis. Inf. On Sep 6, 1904
>>>> Elizabeth M Rogers filed for widow's pension (Application No.
>>>> 813103, Certificate No. 583574) in Oregon.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this gives you some answers (?), and further sources to
>>>> contact.
>>>> Darlene
>>>>
>>>> On 1/20/2012 8:47 AM, Sue Steward wrote:
>>>>> But the stone doesn't say O.O.F., it says CO F for Company F.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/19/2012 9:27 PM, Dan JM wrote:
>>>>>> I hope by now every one has seen the pic of the head stone
>>>>>> says O.O.F.
>>>>>> And its still a mystery.
>>>>>> ;)
>>>>>> Dan M
>>>>>>
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