[or-roots] Journal

Wed Jan 28 14:27:12 PST 2015

I'm home now, so did a little more checking on Fred Lockley.

Check this out:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Lockley

I wonder if this Mike Helm had any of the original materials. Remembering, of course, that we are "quessing" about who may really have bought or otherwise obtained the journal.

I just found the email I sent to this list in 2004 about the subject of Fred Lockley. Anne Billeter said this: 

Yes, the U of O's Knight Library's Oregon Collections has many scrapbooks

of clippings of Fred Lockley's columns, AND they are indexed in a many

drawered-3x5 card file index.  I believe the Lockley/Helm's books are

selected columns.

So, perhaps the "collection" doesn't include original material after all.  I should note that the articles that Lockley wrote appeared in the "Oregon Journal" - the afternoon newspaper for Portland from 1902 to 1982.   The Journal was purchased by S I Newhouse and Advance Publications in 1961. They are also the owners of The Oregonian.  The archives, according to the Wiki article, are maintained by the Oregonian. 

I do wonder though, if he died in Gold Hill, in Jackson County, is it possible the material could have found its way to the Southern Oregon Historical Society there?

http://www.sohs.org/

There is, there, an oral history titled 

Interviewed for her book ”Jackson County Conversations;” Flippin. Rosecran, Hay and Cook families histories; Rock Point; Gold Hill Chinese and area cemeteries

There is one called: Oral History Interview with Ida Cook -- Found in Scope & Content: History of Cook family; school days in Gold Hill; life in Gold Hill, teachiing and teacher’s life in Gold Hill and Galls Creek; building Highway 99; workiing in fruit ...

It is possible that this is a clue to the journal. 

I have been able to access some of the oral histories that mention my grandparents, and it is extremely interesting, especially if you happen to know the person being interviewed. 

I did find a few items on the "Hays" and Cook families, including the "Hays Gall Cemetery"  but nothing much with "Hay."  Probably another incident where there are two pretty common spellings for one family...but when you are looking, be sure to use both spellings. If you asked for "Hay" and they have a journal for "Hays" they might not look further.

There is one entry (Pam Smith) on ancestry.com/surnames.hay/ that indicates that James Willis was the only one to add an "s" to his name. 

Further -- there is a William B Hay, b Virginia, m in KY to Elizabeth Sandsburg (other spellings), had a DLC in Josephine County. Is this the father of your James Willis? 

"733 Hay, William G., Josephine Co; b 1805, Lee Co, Va; Arr Are 1 Sept 1854; SC 10 Nov/1 Dec 1854; m Elizabeth Sandsburg, Oct 1833/5, Laurel Co, Ky." 

>From "Genealogical material in Oregon donation land claims" Vol III, Roseburg Land Office.

There's an interesting conversation on the Ancestry boards:

http://boards.ancestry.ie/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=1022&p=surnames.hay

I note this because a book, "Indian Wars of the Rogue River" apparently references this family. The original ("The Early Indian Wars of Oregon" by Frances Fuller Victor)  was written in 1894, and updated in the 1964 book. You might want to check this out. Possible that the "journal" was from this generation, (Wm Ballinger, not James Willis).

The original book is available many places, I found it at:

https://ia600400.us.archive.org/33/items/indianwarsoregon00victrich/indianwarsoregon00victrich.pdf

Page 340 mentions one H B Hayes on the Rogue River, and on page 349, there is a footnote with a petition from Phoenix mills signed by petitioners from Illinois Valley and Deer creek, including "William B. Hay", copied from B F Dowell's Indian war documents. 

Again, the use of Hay/Hays/Hayes is a bit (a lot) confusing!

I don't know if this helps at all, but in my limited experience with family tales, I've found that they frequently get the gist right, but the details are fuzzy.

So, I'd be looking at the Oregon State Library, the Oregon Historical Society, the Oregon Archives, the Southern Oregon versions of the above, as well as Josephine County. Maybe......

Good luck,

Pat

In Tucson 

From: Kith-n-Kin [mailto:Kith-n-Kin at cox.net] 
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 12:36 PM
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I think the Knight Library at U of Oregon has a large collection, and knowledge of his work. 

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I am pretty sure you will have to go there unless there is a way to contact them to ask that question. I haven't been real impressed with their cooperativeness with my efforts at research. Since you are targeting a specific collection with a specific question you will probably get better results.

Les

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Thanks Denise.  How do you find a list of the folks he interviewed?  I got hung up and went in circles!! Diane

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