[Libs-Or] Policies and Pot

Fri Feb 20 17:14:26 PST 2015

I actually think that, on the whole,  this has been a good discussion.
Information about how libraries are planning on not adding policies but
think current policies work was good.  The sharing of actual information
about the law was helpful. Information on the OLA workshop and the
discussion about there possibly being a need to improve and update our
collections sure was a good reminder for me.

In some ways it is kind of hard not to have a little fun with the subject.
I mean, it's pot.

We currently have issues with some illegal activities that happen in and
around our buildings that we do actually need to address and, for me, drug
dealing has been one of those issues.  I just had to put in surveillance
cameras at the small Siletz Library to discourage some of the drug dealing
going on. People were basically blocking one of the main doors while
waiting for their dealer to show up.  This is the door right off of the
parking lot.  Many people were uncomfortable walking past the congregation
of drug buyers. I really don't like surveillance cameras and we didn't put
them inside the building.

Within a week of putting in the cameras the drug group moved next door,
behind the post office. The staff have also noticed a very significant
decrease in littering outside the library, including a significant decrease
in cigarette butts.

This is a town with  no city police and only occasional visits from the
county sheriff's department.  That patrolling is mostly on the highway side
of the building and not the parking lot side. So, even though the actual
drug dealer has been reported to the sheriff's department the problem was
just getting worse all the time.  The third broken library window was
really the last straw.

The thing is, probably very little of this relates to marijuana. The drugs
being distributed are probably crack or heroin.

Drugs are some of the many things we end up having to deal with and having
a good discussion about how to keep staff and patrons safe and at the same
time not judging people and their choices is a good discussion to have.
On Feb 20, 2015 4:10 PM, "Colin Rea" <crea at fernridgelibrary.org> wrote:

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>
> My original e-mail query should clearly have gone out to the Director’s
> list only.  Put your hackles down, folks.  There’s no judgment here, I’m
> simply doing my job in asking a question about a policy issue my board is
> looking at and assessing risk so that my limited budget goes toward
> material and programming and not lawsuits.  I’m sad to see information
> professionals again using this forum to subtly question the intentions of
> their peers.
>
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> Colin M. Rea
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> *From:* Paul Addis [mailto:paddis at cclsd.org]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 20, 2015 3:30 PM
> *To:* libs-or at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> *Subject:* Re: [Libs-Or] Policies and Pot
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>
>
> I agree with Max in that I would like to know how libraries are planning
> to serve, and bring into the library, this budding (sorry, couldn't help
> it) new demographic. As a public librarian, I am really not interested in
> banning or prohibiting use of the library or drugs. If I was interested, I
> would have chosen another profession.
>
> For instance, we finally got a medical marijuana book in our Reference
> section. Now, I would like to know of more general Reference materials to
> bring into the library for both recreational users and those concerned
> about marijuana and its usage. Or, what kind of programs, especially
> educational, are folks planning around this new law. I believe Max is
> presenting something at OLA but is anybody planning events for their actual
> library.
>
> In my experience, most behavioral issues I have to address in the library
> revolve around alcohol use and/or mental issues unrelated to drugs. The
> folks who stink like weed tend to be pretty nice. Maybe this law will be
> good for us.
>
> I guess what I'm saying is if we have to talk about pot in this forum,
> shouldn't the discussion be centered around what we will do for these
> users? I'm not really interested in discriminating against library users
> and I really don't care what drugs they use. I would rather not know and
> prefer to remain neutral.
>
> I also agree with Buzzy in that I do not understand why marijuana is being
> singled out as an issue for libraries. I think we should leave that to the
> police who I doubt are very concerned about it these days.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Paul
>
> On 2/20/2015 1:39 PM, Max Macias wrote:
>
> I agree Buzzy.
>
> I mean--do you all check everyone's water bottles to make sure there isn't
> vodka in there?
>
> I am wondering what everyone is doing to provide patrons with relevant,
> useful solid information about cannabis use, medicinal cannabis use and the
> cannabis business.
>
> These are all questions librarians will be asked, and we should have
> answers that don't revolve around sending people to the DEA web site.
>
> People might want to think about serving human information needs, then
> keeping people out of the library and "What if they do this, or what if
> they do thats?"  IMO
>
>
>
>
>
> Many US veterans find PTSD relief from medicinal cannabis.
>
>
>
>
>
> Will you try to keep them out of your library if they smoked or ingested
> cannabis hours before?
>
>
>
>
>
> How many hours/days must a person be sober before they can enter the
> library?
>
>
>
> What is the legal limit for being in the library?
>
>
>
> How will you be able to tell if someone's red eyes are from an allergy or
> from being baked?
>
>
>
> It seems like it would be a mistake to travel down the routes of trying to
> figure these things out and sticking to "illegal behavior."
>
>
>
> You patrons have information needs about cannabis--how will you help them
> with those needs?
>
>
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Max Macias
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Buzzy Nielsen <buzzy at hoodriverlibrary.org>
> wrote:
>
> I guess I'm just not seeing the rationale for specifically calling out
> marijuana. Noncommercial exchanges of legal goods happen all the time in
> our buildings. As long as there's no illegal activity happening and it's
> not adversely affecting library operations. It seems like you'd just be
> making more work for yourself having to police it.
>
> Also, you might want to look into whether it's permissible to forbid
> people from posting legal marijuana-related content on your public bulletin
> boards. At least when I looked it up, publicly-accessible library bulletin
> boards fall under the same "limited public forum" case law as public
> meeting rooms.
>
> Cheers!
> Buzzy
>
>
> ************************************
> Library Director
> Hood River County Library District
> 502 State Street
> Hood River, Oregon 97031
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>
> On 02/20/2015 01:13 PM, BCLD Library Director wrote:
>
> I recently attended at the SDAO Conference and learned that
>
> ·         while public consumption is prohibited, possession and
> *delivery* (sharing for noncommercial purposes)  of fairly large
> quantities are allowed.
>
>
>
> A number of scenarios of concern occurred to me regarding lawful delivery
> for “noncommercial purposes.”  Below is a draft Q&A I’ve started to craft
> for staff guidance. I will need to run it by legal counsel when ready.
>
>
>
> *Administering Oregon's Marijuana Law | Sean O'Day and Rob Bovett
> <http://ref.sdao.com/conference/2015/oday.pdf>*
>
> Powerpoint slides (pdf) http://ref.sdao.com/conference/2015/oday.pdf
>
> See page 14.
>
> Effective July 1, 2015, a person 21 or older can:
>
> ·         Deliver to another person 21 or older, for noncommercial
> purposes, up to:
>
> o   1 ounce of homegrown marijuana;
>
> o   1 pound of solid homegrown marijuana products; and
>
> o   4 ½ pounds of liquid homemade marijuana products.
>
>
>
> So…
>
>
>
> *Can people use the library as a space to trade/exchange their homegrown
> products?  *
>
> Probably not. It seems reasonable to interpret any kind of exchange of
> goods as “commercial” activity, so that would be out.
>
>
>
> *Since non-commercial sharing is legal, can someone set a up a little
> giveaway station at a library table?*
>
> Probably not. Section 56 would appear to prohibit such open displays in
> common areas.
>
>
>
> Meas. 91, Section 56.
> <http://www.oregon.gov/olcc/marijuana/Documents/Measure91.pdf> Homegrown
> marijuana in public view prohibited. (1) No person may
>
> produce, process, keep, or store homegrown marijuana or homemade marijuana
> products
>
> if the homegrown marijuana or homemade marijuana products can be readily
> seen by
>
> normal unaided vision from a public place.
>
>
>
> *Can someone use a tutor room for sharing (which would not be readily
> seen) and just post their availability hours or a contact number for
> appointments on the bulletin board?*
>
> I haven’t yet found anything to prohibit it, so that scenario may need to
> be addressed by a policy.
>
>
>
> Additional seminar handouts
>
> http://ref.sdao.com/conference/2015/addtlhandouts.pdf
>
>
>
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