[Libs-Or] Policies and Pot

Max Macias max.macias at gmail.com
Fri Feb 20 19:56:45 PST 2015


Here is a great resource I recently found at my local library:

http://lowriderlibrarian.blogspot.com/2015/02/cannabis-pharmacy-book-your-library.html



Respectfully,


Max Macias


On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Diedre Conkling <diedre08 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I actually think that, on the whole,  this has been a good discussion.
> Information about how libraries are planning on not adding policies but
> think current policies work was good.  The sharing of actual information
> about the law was helpful. Information on the OLA workshop and the
> discussion about there possibly being a need to improve and update our
> collections sure was a good reminder for me.
>
> In some ways it is kind of hard not to have a little fun with the
> subject.  I mean, it's pot.
>
> We currently have issues with some illegal activities that happen in and
> around our buildings that we do actually need to address and, for me, drug
> dealing has been one of those issues.  I just had to put in surveillance
> cameras at the small Siletz Library to discourage some of the drug dealing
> going on. People were basically blocking one of the main doors while
> waiting for their dealer to show up.  This is the door right off of the
> parking lot.  Many people were uncomfortable walking past the congregation
> of drug buyers. I really don't like surveillance cameras and we didn't put
> them inside the building.
>
> Within a week of putting in the cameras the drug group moved next door,
> behind the post office. The staff have also noticed a very significant
> decrease in littering outside the library, including a significant decrease
> in cigarette butts.
>
> This is a town with  no city police and only occasional visits from the
> county sheriff's department.  That patrolling is mostly on the highway side
> of the building and not the parking lot side. So, even though the actual
> drug dealer has been reported to the sheriff's department the problem was
> just getting worse all the time.  The third broken library window was
> really the last straw.
>
> The thing is, probably very little of this relates to marijuana. The drugs
> being distributed are probably crack or heroin.
>
> Drugs are some of the many things we end up having to deal with and having
> a good discussion about how to keep staff and patrons safe and at the same
> time not judging people and their choices is a good discussion to have.
> On Feb 20, 2015 4:10 PM, "Colin Rea" <crea at fernridgelibrary.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> My original e-mail query should clearly have gone out to the Director's
>> list only.  Put your hackles down, folks.  There's no judgment here, I'm
>> simply doing my job in asking a question about a policy issue my board is
>> looking at and assessing risk so that my limited budget goes toward
>> material and programming and not lawsuits.  I'm sad to see information
>> professionals again using this forum to subtly question the intentions of
>> their peers.
>>
>>
>>
>> Colin M. Rea
>>
>> Director, Fern Ridge Library District
>>
>> PO Box 397
>>
>> 88026 Territorial Road
>>
>> Veneta, OR 97487
>>
>> 541.935.7512     fax 541.935.8013
>>
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>>
>>
>> *From:* Paul Addis [mailto:paddis at cclsd.org]
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 20, 2015 3:30 PM
>> *To:* libs-or at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>> *Subject:* Re: [Libs-Or] Policies and Pot
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree with Max in that I would like to know how libraries are planning
>> to serve, and bring into the library, this budding (sorry, couldn't help
>> it) new demographic. As a public librarian, I am really not interested in
>> banning or prohibiting use of the library or drugs. If I was interested, I
>> would have chosen another profession.
>>
>> For instance, we finally got a medical marijuana book in our Reference
>> section. Now, I would like to know of more general Reference materials to
>> bring into the library for both recreational users and those concerned
>> about marijuana and its usage. Or, what kind of programs, especially
>> educational, are folks planning around this new law. I believe Max is
>> presenting something at OLA but is anybody planning events for their actual
>> library.
>>
>> In my experience, most behavioral issues I have to address in the library
>> revolve around alcohol use and/or mental issues unrelated to drugs. The
>> folks who stink like weed tend to be pretty nice. Maybe this law will be
>> good for us.
>>
>> I guess what I'm saying is if we have to talk about pot in this forum,
>> shouldn't the discussion be centered around what we will do for these
>> users? I'm not really interested in discriminating against library users
>> and I really don't care what drugs they use. I would rather not know and
>> prefer to remain neutral.
>>
>> I also agree with Buzzy in that I do not understand why marijuana is
>> being singled out as an issue for libraries. I think we should leave that
>> to the police who I doubt are very concerned about it these days.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 2/20/2015 1:39 PM, Max Macias wrote:
>>
>> I agree Buzzy.
>>
>> I mean--do you all check everyone's water bottles to make sure there
>> isn't vodka in there?
>>
>> I am wondering what everyone is doing to provide patrons with relevant,
>> useful solid information about cannabis use, medicinal cannabis use and the
>> cannabis business.
>>
>> These are all questions librarians will be asked, and we should have
>> answers that don't revolve around sending people to the DEA web site.
>>
>> People might want to think about serving human information needs, then
>> keeping people out of the library and "What if they do this, or what if
>> they do thats?"  IMO
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Many US veterans find PTSD relief from medicinal cannabis.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Will you try to keep them out of your library if they smoked or ingested
>> cannabis hours before?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> How many hours/days must a person be sober before they can enter the
>> library?
>>
>>
>>
>> What is the legal limit for being in the library?
>>
>>
>>
>> How will you be able to tell if someone's red eyes are from an allergy or
>> from being baked?
>>
>>
>>
>> It seems like it would be a mistake to travel down the routes of trying
>> to figure these things out and sticking to "illegal behavior."
>>
>>
>>
>> You patrons have information needs about cannabis--how will you help them
>> with those needs?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> Max Macias
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Buzzy Nielsen <
>> buzzy at hoodriverlibrary.org> wrote:
>>
>> I guess I'm just not seeing the rationale for specifically calling out
>> marijuana. Noncommercial exchanges of legal goods happen all the time in
>> our buildings. As long as there's no illegal activity happening and it's
>> not adversely affecting library operations. It seems like you'd just be
>> making more work for yourself having to police it.
>>
>> Also, you might want to look into whether it's permissible to forbid
>> people from posting legal marijuana-related content on your public bulletin
>> boards. At least when I looked it up, publicly-accessible library bulletin
>> boards fall under the same "limited public forum" case law as public
>> meeting rooms.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Buzzy
>>
>>
>> ************************************
>> Library Director
>> Hood River County Library District
>> 502 State Street
>> Hood River, Oregon 97031
>> 541-387-7062
>> http://hoodriverlibrary.org
>>
>> On 02/20/2015 01:13 PM, BCLD Library Director wrote:
>>
>> I recently attended at the SDAO Conference and learned that
>>
>> ·         while public consumption is prohibited, possession and
>> *delivery* (sharing for noncommercial purposes)  of fairly large
>> quantities are allowed.
>>
>>
>>
>> A number of scenarios of concern occurred to me regarding lawful delivery
>> for "noncommercial purposes."  Below is a draft Q&A I've started to craft
>> for staff guidance. I will need to run it by legal counsel when ready.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Administering Oregon's Marijuana Law | Sean O'Day and Rob Bovett
>> <http://ref.sdao.com/conference/2015/oday.pdf>*
>>
>> Powerpoint slides (pdf) http://ref.sdao.com/conference/2015/oday.pdf
>>
>> See page 14.
>>
>> Effective July 1, 2015, a person 21 or older can:
>>
>> ·         Deliver to another person 21 or older, for noncommercial
>> purposes, up to:
>>
>> o   1 ounce of homegrown marijuana;
>>
>> o   1 pound of solid homegrown marijuana products; and
>>
>> o   4 1/2 pounds of liquid homemade marijuana products.
>>
>>
>>
>> So...
>>
>>
>>
>> *Can people use the library as a space to trade/exchange their homegrown
>> products?  *
>>
>> Probably not. It seems reasonable to interpret any kind of exchange of
>> goods as "commercial" activity, so that would be out.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Since non-commercial sharing is legal, can someone set a up a little
>> giveaway station at a library table?*
>>
>> Probably not. Section 56 would appear to prohibit such open displays in
>> common areas.
>>
>>
>>
>> Meas. 91, Section 56.
>> <http://www.oregon.gov/olcc/marijuana/Documents/Measure91.pdf> Homegrown
>> marijuana in public view prohibited. (1) No person may
>>
>> produce, process, keep, or store homegrown marijuana or homemade
>> marijuana products
>>
>> if the homegrown marijuana or homemade marijuana products can be readily
>> seen by
>>
>> normal unaided vision from a public place.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Can someone use a tutor room for sharing (which would not be readily
>> seen) and just post their availability hours or a contact number for
>> appointments on the bulletin board?*
>>
>> I haven't yet found anything to prohibit it, so that scenario may need to
>> be addressed by a policy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Additional seminar handouts
>>
>> http://ref.sdao.com/conference/2015/addtlhandouts.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>> -----------------------------------------
>>
>> Perry Stokes | Library Director
>>
>> Baker County Library District | 2400 Resort St | Baker City, OR 97814
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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