[or-roots] Census oddities

[Dale Harguess]

You are right of course.  It was Jerome I was thinking of and not Salome.
 Sorry for the confusion.


On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net> wrote:

> Dale
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> Only one I know. The biggest semi-ghost town south of Flagstaff is Jerome
> - named after the Jerome family, whose daughter, Jennie was the mother of
> Winston Churchill.
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> There are, of course, many former mining towns, most of which could be
> called ghost towns, generally consisting of only a cemetery.
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> Interestingly, my mother's step-father worked there around 1900 or so, and
> one grand-uncle and one great-grand uncle on my father's side went from
> Oregon to Arizona to mine as early as 1865. Sure at least my grand uncle
> was probably messing around on the mountain when it was a tent camp. We
> didn't move from Oregon to Flagstaff until much later....1949.
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> My fondest memory of Jerome was when they would have "hill climbs" - a
> race uphill through the streets, cordoned off with rope and straw bales.
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> Of course (statute of limitations has probably run out), we "local kids"
> would sneak down from Flagstaff on a Saturday and run the hill ourselves,
> sans hay bales on the corners.... oops.
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> Between that sort of thing and the mercury we played with, it's a wonder
> we survived. But, good pioneer stock will out, I guess!
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> Pat
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> *From:* or-roots [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] *On
> Behalf Of *Dale Harguess
> *Sent:* Monday, January 20, 2014 3:12 PM
> *To:* or-roots mail list
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> *Subject:* Re: [or-roots] Census oddities
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> You must be talking about a different Salome than I am.  The one I went to
> is a semi-ghost town high up in the mountains south of Flagstaff.  It was a
> roaring mining town with all the normal things they had back then.
>  Saloons, houses of ill repute, opera house, etc.
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> My mother lives in Quartzsite so I have seen the Hi Jolly monument many
> times (what is left of it that is).
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> Dale
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> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net> wrote:
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> Ah, Salome -- "where she danced"....
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> In 1856, a herd of camels was driven to Camp Verde (in the Verde Valley,
> north east of Salome, more or less) and the Army used the animals to pack
> around Arizona.  Unfortunately, the camels didn't get along with the horses
> and mules, so that was an experiment that was doomed to failure. During the
> Civil War, they mostly were sold off or they "escaped confinement" and
> roamed the desert and lower mountain ranges for decades. Good thing they
> weren't quite as fertile as the horses, or we'd be worrying about "wild
> camels" instead of "wild hornes."
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> Anyway, "Hi Jolly" (Hadji Ali) who had come to the US as the lead camel
> driver, lived out his life in Arizona and was buried near Quartsite,
> Arizona.
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> Dick Wick Hall (humorist) 20 Mar 1877-28 April 1926, founded Salome, half
> way between Wickenburg and Quartsite, and named it as a joke.  He married
> Daysie Mae Sutton of Portland in 1911.
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Wick_Hall
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> Until the completion of I-10 (sometime after 1970, as I recall) the way to
> southern California was through Wickenburg and Salome. Good place to stop
> for a Coke and a stretch!
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> Don't remember any weirdness -- at least no more weird than any other
> place around. We always looked for camels. Of course the last one was seen
> sometime around 1900....
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> Good memories.
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> Pat
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> In Tucson (where a camel lives across the river from me)
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> *From:* or-roots [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] *On
> Behalf Of *Dale Harguess
> *Sent:* Monday, January 20, 2014 2:31 PM
> *To:* Leslie Chapman; or-roots mail list
> *Subject:* Re: [or-roots] Census oddities
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> I have been to Salome, AZ.  It is a very spooky place.  Much spookier than
> Hardman OR.
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> Dale
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> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 1:03 AM, Leslie Chapman <opera_70 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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> Here's a strange one for you;
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> 1840  >  NEW HAMPSHIRE  >  CHESHIRE  >  SWANZEY
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> The whole town is recorded in alphabetical order, kind of neat, but when I
> wanted to look for someone in the 1850 census it meant I had no neighbors
> to tell me I was in the vicinity. Not that it probably made any difference
> since I am pretty sure my guy had moved on. Darn these fiddle footed
> Americans.
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> It seems more the exception than the rule to find someone in the same
> place for more than two consecutive Censuses.
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> I do have an Oregon question related to the above quadry;
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> Luella M. Marden  b 27 Sept 1911 Rapid City SD to John B. BLake b about
> 1910 Illinois [latter from finding them in coos Co in 1940 which "maybe"
> makes this an Oregon question.
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> She subsequently marries Floyd McCurdy b 13 Mar 1909 KS he dies March 1983
> Saolome, AZ
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> My number one question is what happened to John Blake? I find no good
> match for death in Oregon or Divorce, but then I don't know where Floyd is
> in 1940 and these fiddle footed people could be have moved on to another
> state by the time she gets to hubby number two, but if someone could double
> check the OR death and marriage indexes for me I'd appreciate it, family
> search says none of these events are listed there, but I know that doesn't
> mean they really aren't
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> Les C
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